The 'Turing Test' passed

The 'Turing Test' passed

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Asterix

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235 months

IainT

10,040 posts

245 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Little detail in the article but a fairly important step.

Ethical debate needs to be front and centre now.

Simpo Two

87,123 posts

272 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Did Turing ever consider how 13 year-old boys might speak, sorry type, in 2014? I'm sure the requirements to pass the 'intelligence' test should be more than just language and typing, lol.

Asterix

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24,438 posts

235 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Simpo Two said:
Did Turing ever consider how 13 year-old boys might speak, sorry type, in 2014? I'm sure the requirements to pass the 'intelligence' test should be more than just language and typing, lol.
If the average 13 year old is like this...



Then I could have been quite easy - "grunt, groan, You don't understand..!"


Simpo Two

87,123 posts

272 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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I think they have found a way to fool a few people that there's a boy on the other end, and jumped from there to 'Woo, Turing Test!' for some easy headlines.

simoid

19,772 posts

165 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Simpo Two said:
I think they have found a way to fool a few people that there's a boy on the other end, and jumped from there to 'Woo, Turing Test!' for some easy headlines.
On the face of it, the test looks quite simple - two thirds of the experts thought it was a computer hehe

cold thursday

341 posts

135 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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simoid said:
On the face of it, the test looks quite simple - two thirds of the experts thought it was a computer hehe
Actually two thirds thought it wasn't. Only 33% thought it was and this was enough to pass the test. hehehehe

simoid

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165 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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cold thursday said:
Actually two thirds thought it wasn't. Only 33% thought it was and this was enough to pass the test. hehehehe
33% thought it was a teenager, 67% thought it was a compootah smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

261 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Turing's test was supposed to be quite complex , aimed at the top 10% of English literature graduates, not surly 13 year old boys.

Media beat up story.

cold thursday

341 posts

135 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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simoid said:
33% thought it was a teenager, 67% thought it was a compootah smile
You are right my bad wink

Engineer1

10,486 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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The computer still fooled some people, and to be fair claiming to be a foreign teenager was a good first step. Someone is unlikely to design the perfect programming to fool the experts in one go, so hopefully this is a first step.

Asterix

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235 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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cold thursday said:
simoid said:
On the face of it, the test looks quite simple - two thirds of the experts thought it was a computer hehe
Actually two thirds thought it wasn't. Only 33% thought it was and this was enough to pass the test. hehehehe
Less than 33% of the population voted Labour in three times in a row...

probably

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

251 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Transcript of a "conversation" with the bot. Utter drivel. Also Kevin Warwick is a feckwit.

Simpo Two

87,123 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Engineer1 said:
The computer still fooled some people, and to be fair claiming to be a foreign teenager was a good first step.
That makes the test even more pointless.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Simpo Two said:
I think they have found a way to fool a few people that there's a boy on the other end, and jumped from there to 'Woo, Turing Test!' for some easy headlines.
Who was the computer talking to? Gary Glitter?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Reading the transcript I'd wonder if the 33% the computer convinced could pass a turing test themselves.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Engineer1 said:
Reading the transcript I'd wonder if the 33% the computer convinced could pass a turing test themselves.
rofl

Strangely Brown

11,121 posts

238 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Listening to John Humphries talking to it, it comes across as actually pretty crap. Rather than AI having improved I would be more inclined to ask whether human intelligence has gone through the floor. Especially those who were convinced.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Sunday 22 June 09:44

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Strangely Brown said:
Listening to John Humphries talking to it, it comes across as actually pretty crap. Rather than AI having improved I would be more inclined to ask whether human intelligence has gone through the floor. Especially those that were convinced.
i heard that this morning, the program types text like a nigerian e-mail scammer- utter st.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Simpo Two said:
Engineer1 said:
The computer still fooled some people, and to be fair claiming to be a foreign teenager was a good first step.
That makes the test even more pointless.
Don't dis the test!
The test is fine, this just abuses it. It only works if it's treated fairly. Which is sort of the point of it!