Microwaving is bad for you......

Microwaving is bad for you......

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airbrakes

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10,525 posts

167 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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...according to this study:
http://usahitman.com/microwave-test/

Now, I'm prepared to believe that microwaving can alter the DNA and proteins of certain foods etc into harmful substances. But something does not add up at all with this study.... because there's nothing to alter in pure water!!!! How can a microwave possibly mutate some H20?

the only explanation I can possibly think of off the top of my head is that microwaving somehow causes increased formation of hydronium ions compared to boiling, and its the hydronium that's killing the plant?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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That's not science.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

196 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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The microwaved one is much wetter than the other - looks like it died of too much water (treatment irrelevant).

motco

16,231 posts

253 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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They didn't use an identical container to heat the water in clearly, because a 'pan' is metal and the water in the microwave was in a 'microwavable' container. That container will have leached out some processing compound from the material which the plant didn't like.

Therefore the verdict here is:


bigandclever

13,951 posts

245 months

airbrakes

Original Poster:

10,525 posts

167 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Ah ha! I think you've nailed it motco! Afer a bit of googling based on that leads, it appears that all microwave safe plastics have an FDA-tested and regulated maximum value for the amount of plasticising agents they are allowed to leach into food for a given amount of microwaving. Of course, this threshold is waaaay below any sort of toxic or long-term harmful dose for humans.......... but for a plant with circa 1/5000th of the body mass, I bet the same dose is fatal when administered constantly over 9 days scratchchin

Dogwatch

6,274 posts

229 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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bigandclever said:
What have the youth of Sussex done to be saddled with this incarnation of some internet rubbish?

Simpo Two

87,125 posts

272 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Interesting that the text in the 'research' document and the Snopes version is different, the former talking about the 'structure' and 'energy' of water. Suspect these were pointed as horsest and the writer then changed them.

However as for the current version:

'It has been known for some years that the problem with microwaved anything is not the radiation people used to worry about, it’s how it corrupts the DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it.'

The body does not need to 'recognise DNA'. Horsest.

'Microwaves don’t work different ways on different substances. Whatever you put into the microwave suffers the same destructive process. Microwaves agitate the molecules to move faster and faster. This movement causes friction which denatures the original make-up of the substance. It results in destroyed vitamins, minerals, proteins and generates the new stuff called radiolytic compounds, things that are not found in nature.'

Microwaves heat water molecules. Heat is a function of moelcular movement. The above is horsest.

'So the body wraps it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates it fast'.

Dead food? Horsest.

'Think of all the Mothers heating up milk in these ‘Safe’ appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed him when the blood went in dead. But the makers say it’s safe. But proof is in the pictures of living plants dying!!!'

Blood needs to be alive to carry oxygen. Microwave it and the components will be denatured (killed). But that is not specific to microwaves; blood heated in a saucepan would be equally lethal.

The writer has decided that microwaves are bad and has cobbled together the most extraordinary concoction of non-facts to non-support their non-case. In fact calling it horsest is unfair on horsest.

valais

52,430 posts

162 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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airbrakes said:
...according to this study:
http://usahitman.com/microwave-test/

Now, I'm prepared to believe that microwaving can alter the DNA and proteins of certain foods etc into harmful substances. But something does not add up at all with this study.... because there's nothing to alter in pure water!!!! How can a microwave possibly mutate some H20?

the only explanation I can possibly think of off the top of my head is that microwaving somehow causes increased formation of hydronium ions compared to boiling, and its the hydronium that's killing the plant?
FFS, you are studying chemistry? Look at the method first...

Simpo Two

87,125 posts

272 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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valais said:
FFS, you are studying chemistry? Look at the method first...
Aeronautical engineering, so he has an excuse smile

valais

52,430 posts

162 months

Monday 7th October 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Aeronautical engineering, so he has an excuse smile
Keep up at the back...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Monty Python

4,813 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Another example of a one-point straight line.

Where are the replicates?