Italian scientists earthquake verdict due.

Italian scientists earthquake verdict due.

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Asterix

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24,438 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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http://www.thesundaily.my/news/521634

Interesting case that's coming to an end. Whether or not the scientists could have done more, it will mean that every other Italian scientists, weatherman etc... will have to publicise the worst possible outcomes to cover their backs - and it could set the precedent for other countries should they be found guilty.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Not being a scientist and fully understanding this. Are they negligent? That is is this a case of not preparing the residents for what could happen rather than predicting? If that were the case then would that not be the local authorities with direction from higher government having plans in place and the scientists should only have been advisors to the precautions?

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Ever since the 1987 hurricane, British "weather forecasts" have transformed themselves into "weather warnings".

Simpo Two

86,704 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Ever since the 1987 hurricane, British "weather forecasts" have transformed themselves into "weather warnings".
If they said 'Mostly cloudy with showers of rain and a few minutes of sun if lucky' - and repeated it 365 times they'd be fairly close.

Tycho

11,823 posts

279 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Sky News is reporting that they each have got 6 years each for failing to predict the earthquake.

Quite a scary precedent IMO. Can't see many earthquake scientists wanting to cover the US West coast from now...

Baron Greenback

7,196 posts

156 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Six Italian scientists and an ex-government official have been sentenced to six years in prison over the 2009 deadly earthquake in L'Aquila.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20025626
My god this is worrying and also in the new Italy's top court has ruled that a businessman developed a benign brain tumor because he held a cellphone to his ear for hours daily for his job and deserves worker's compensation

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-10-italian-court-blames-...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

261 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Utterly ridiculous.

GTDNB

753 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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what the actual F!!! demented.

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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You can't be serious! Anyone with a High-school education knows that Earthquakes are impossible to predict.

Asterix

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24,438 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Scientists will either become completely mute or say the world is going to end every day to cover themselves.

Madness!

hornet

6,333 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Genuine question then - where does this leave things like the IPCC assessments? If these scientists are guilty on the basis of providing "inexact, incomplete and contradictory" information, where does that leave those pumping out apocalyptic climate scenarios? Could it be argued that government use of inexact and alarmist climate models to underpin policy diverts funding from other areas that could have a much more immediate "on the ground" impact? If it could be shown that the "lost" funding could have saved lives, is there a similar case to answer?

AnotherClarkey

3,624 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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hornet said:
Genuine question then - where does this leave things like the IPCC assessments? If these scientists are guilty on the basis of providing "inexact, incomplete and contradictory" information, where does that leave those pumping out apocalyptic climate scenarios? Could it be argued that government use of inexact and alarmist climate models to underpin policy diverts funding from other areas that could have a much more immediate "on the ground" impact? If it could be shown that the "lost" funding could have saved lives, is there a similar case to answer?
Isn't the closer and more interesting parallel with climate change deniers? Those who claim that everything will be OK and that no precautions need to be taken?

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

157 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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On Radio 2 this afternoon on the Jeremy Vine show, someone emailed saying that they thought it was great they had been prosecuted, as it's about time Scientists were held accountable for their actions, just like people in the medical practice are. The expression "made my piss boil" doesn't even come close.

vixen1700

23,875 posts

276 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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TheTurbonator said:
On Radio 2 this afternoon on the Jeremy Vine show, someone emailed saying that they thought it was great they had been prosecuted, as it's about time Scientists were held accountable for their actions, just like people in the medical practice are. The expression "made my piss boil" doesn't even come close.
Good grief! frown

Proof that the stupid people are taking over the world.