Human settlement on Mars in 10 years
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http://www.sen.com/feature/mars-one-plans-for-huma...
A Dutch company is planning to colonise Mars in 10 years funded entirely by flogging off the broadcasting rights. Sky Mars HD anyone?
A Dutch company is planning to colonise Mars in 10 years funded entirely by flogging off the broadcasting rights. Sky Mars HD anyone?
Nice idea but wont happen unless there is a discovery of lots of precious metals or even better oil.
Private individuals even if their surname is Gates probably couldn't afford it
and corporations wouldn't give a toss without a substantial return.
I think Mars will be left to the scientists probes and maybe just maybe a manned NASA
mission when its politically useful to fund it.
Private individuals even if their surname is Gates probably couldn't afford it
and corporations wouldn't give a toss without a substantial return.
I think Mars will be left to the scientists probes and maybe just maybe a manned NASA
mission when its politically useful to fund it.
MocMocaMoc said:
Why would anyone?
Well the sequence goes a bit like this:da Gama, Columbus, Cook, Peary, Amundsen, Hillary, Armstrong...
ShayneJ said:
Nice idea but wont happen unless there is a discovery of lots of precious metals or even better oil.
Bit tricky shipping the oil back though. Price about £10Bn/litre. I can't think of anything sufficiently valuable and light to be remotely viable.Tim330 said:
You have been evicted, please leave the big brother mars house
This idea has legs 
. Possibly longer than we realise...This week, "big bother"; next week - literally
- "I'm a Zed-lister, get me out of here" with Ant & Dec doing the honourable thing first and stepping out, only for the dreary rest to inevitably follow day by day 
???Can we then manage "the soaps" en masse ("EEH chuck, ere's a rocket, let's go for a ride" followed by suitable sounds then 'collective hissing sounds and a few thumping noises' as they expire in space) in the month or so after? And Downton Abbey could be amusing for a few minutes...
First to experience Mars' atmosphere HAS TO BE the Go Compare man though. Please?
Saturday evenings on the telly finally will be worth watching... For about 6 weeks. Onwards & upwards then, Eh???
What's not to like???
ShayneJ said:
Nice idea but wont happen unless there is a discovery of lots of precious metals or even better oil.
Private individuals even if their surname is Gates probably couldn't afford it
and corporations wouldn't give a toss without a substantial return.
I think Mars will be left to the scientists probes and maybe just maybe a manned NASA
mission when its politically useful to fund it.
This.Private individuals even if their surname is Gates probably couldn't afford it
and corporations wouldn't give a toss without a substantial return.
I think Mars will be left to the scientists probes and maybe just maybe a manned NASA
mission when its politically useful to fund it.
Nothing will happen apart from a few science experiments.
You hear people banging on about how the human race MUST colonise other planets if we are to survive, but it's just not going to happen. It's too difficult, complex and expensive. I mean, let's say the world absolutely blows the budget and builds itself accommodation for 100,000+ people on Mars... Whoopee! Then what? They get bored and come back again when the money runs out to keep sending them supplies?
Even if we find Mars stuffed with oil and precious metals, who will give a s
t? It will cost far more to retrieve them as they will be worth on earth.The only way people will be living and working on Mars is if it becomes highly attractive from a commercial point of view.
Never. Gonna. Happen.
Edited by NinjaPower on Friday 19th October 00:41
Simpo Two said:
Is the only obstacle money, or are are there technological aspects we haven't cracked yet?
Did you see how complex it was to land Curiosity on Mars? Landing humans would add another order of magnitude.I think we could do it with what we have now tech wise, it would take a bunch of Saturn 5 sized boosters and some complex landing techniques.
Bringing them back is near impossible as far as I understand it for us for now. You would need to land something on Mars that could reach orbit with x many people in, it would be a substantial rocket in its own right.
the big question is what would a human do on the surface of mars that a robot cant?
money is the only obstacle.
from generating enough to fund the mission, to investors demanding a return.
greed is what is holding humanity back.
all the "aid" that is thrown about should instead be put into developing a solar economy to make private investment in the solar system viable.
I.E building a 1000 mile long nuclear powered magnetic induction orbital launch system
using that system to build a pair of very substantial space-stations,
( due to the power of the launch system, they can be built in ship yards with no concern over weight/mass/size )
one with facilies to process ORE/Asteroids, and the other with facilities to process water/ICE
sent the ICE station to saturn with ion thrusters, and have a manned mission follow it once it arrives.
the first station can be sent to reside in earth's trojan and send hundreds of recovery probes to collect asteroids into a parking orbit around it to que for processing.
the 2nd station can be engaged in collecting endless ammounds of ice/water from the rings of saturn, process it into breathable air/fuel and drinkable water, as well as collecting the buildup of minerals that will be available in small quantities on the ice collected.
water can simply be processed into a convenient shape, and launched to space station 1, providing water it space cheaper than any other method available.
space station 1 can also begin sending an endless stream of pressure containers to space station 2, that it can fill with oxygen and hydrogen, providing unlimited air and fuel.
once this system is in full swing, more space stations can be sent to orbit moons/planets that people wish to colonise, at this point space station 2 can just send water air and fuel to these locations.
and space station 1 can build and fuel the colonisation vessels, and the mining equipment that the colonists will need begin developing an independent colony.
... something like that anyway lol
from generating enough to fund the mission, to investors demanding a return.
greed is what is holding humanity back.
all the "aid" that is thrown about should instead be put into developing a solar economy to make private investment in the solar system viable.
I.E building a 1000 mile long nuclear powered magnetic induction orbital launch system
using that system to build a pair of very substantial space-stations,
( due to the power of the launch system, they can be built in ship yards with no concern over weight/mass/size )
one with facilies to process ORE/Asteroids, and the other with facilities to process water/ICE
sent the ICE station to saturn with ion thrusters, and have a manned mission follow it once it arrives.
the first station can be sent to reside in earth's trojan and send hundreds of recovery probes to collect asteroids into a parking orbit around it to que for processing.
the 2nd station can be engaged in collecting endless ammounds of ice/water from the rings of saturn, process it into breathable air/fuel and drinkable water, as well as collecting the buildup of minerals that will be available in small quantities on the ice collected.
water can simply be processed into a convenient shape, and launched to space station 1, providing water it space cheaper than any other method available.
space station 1 can also begin sending an endless stream of pressure containers to space station 2, that it can fill with oxygen and hydrogen, providing unlimited air and fuel.
once this system is in full swing, more space stations can be sent to orbit moons/planets that people wish to colonise, at this point space station 2 can just send water air and fuel to these locations.
and space station 1 can build and fuel the colonisation vessels, and the mining equipment that the colonists will need begin developing an independent colony.
... something like that anyway lol
NinjaPower said:
This.
Nothing will happen apart from a few science experiments.
You hear people banging on about how the human race MUST colonise other planets if we are to survive, but it's just not going to happen. It's too difficult, complex and expensive. I mean, let's say the world absolutely blows the budget and builds itself accommodation for 100,000+ people on Mars... Whoopee! Then what? They get bored and come back again when the money runs out to keep sending them supplies?
Even if we find Mars stuffed with oil and precious metals, who will give a st? It will cost far more to retrieve them as they will be worth on earth.
The only way people will be living and working on Mars is if it becomes highly attractive from a commercial point of view.
Never. Gonna. Happen.
If the idea was that the human race needs more space to expand. And with 100,000 people there. Why are they sending stuff back to Earth? Use it to build and do stuff as per on Earth.Nothing will happen apart from a few science experiments.
You hear people banging on about how the human race MUST colonise other planets if we are to survive, but it's just not going to happen. It's too difficult, complex and expensive. I mean, let's say the world absolutely blows the budget and builds itself accommodation for 100,000+ people on Mars... Whoopee! Then what? They get bored and come back again when the money runs out to keep sending them supplies?
Even if we find Mars stuffed with oil and precious metals, who will give a s
t? It will cost far more to retrieve them as they will be worth on earth.The only way people will be living and working on Mars is if it becomes highly attractive from a commercial point of view.
Never. Gonna. Happen.
Edited by NinjaPower on Friday 19th October 00:41
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