Which direction does water drain at the equator?

Which direction does water drain at the equator?

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Viper_Larry

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4,325 posts

262 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Just seen this areticle on the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/fast_track/9...

I don't believe it for a minute! OK, I know that the direction of flow is different in the north/south hemisphere's but

1) Is it really that pronounced either side of the equator, that close?
2) Is that sign even on the equator?
3) Would have thought a round bowl would be better?
4) Don't you need a faster flow than that tiny hole to induce spin?

I think he's some kind of trickster, just flicking the match the direction he wants it to go in!

I did try this on holiday in Kenya once, but can't remember what happened!

Regiment

2,799 posts

165 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Isn't the whole theory that water flows different above the equator compared to the below completely rubbish?

TwigtheWonderkid

44,398 posts

156 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Regiment said:
Isn't the whole theory that water flows different above the equator compared to the below completely rubbish?
It isn't rubbish when applied to whirlpools at sea, with millions of gallons of water, but it is rubbish in terms of your sink/bath etc.

That is far more influenced by the way you pull the plug out and other factors. The spinning of the earth has no force over the whirlpool in your bath just like the orbit of the moon doesn't cause a tidal effect in your garden pond.

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Read "Bad Science " by Phil Plait. He has a whole chapter on why this is nonsense.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Interestingly, the 1908 experiment which started the bullst rumourmongering observed a counterclockwise rotation in the Northern Hemisphere. The opposite to the BBC piece.

wiki said:
In 1908, the Austrian physicist Ottokar Tumlirz described careful and effective experiments which demonstrated the effect of the rotation of the Earth on the outflow of water through a central aperture.[28] The subject was later popularized in a famous article in the journal Nature, which described an experiment in which all other forces to the system were removed by filling a 6-foot (1.8 m) tank with 300 US gallons (1,100 l) of water and allowing it to settle for 24 hours (to allow any movement due to filling the tank to die away), in a room where the temperature had stabilized. The drain plug was then very slowly removed, and tiny pieces of floating wood were used to observe rotation. During the first 12 to 15 minutes, no rotation was observed. Then, a vortex appeared and consistently began to rotate in a counter-clockwise direction (the experiment was performed in Boston, Massachusetts, in the Northern hemisphere). This was repeated and the results averaged to make sure the effect was real. The report noted that the vortex rotated, "about 30,000 times faster than the effective rotation of the earth in 42° North (the experiment's location)". This shows that the small initial rotation due to the earth is amplified by gravitational draining and conservation of angular momentum to become a rapid vortex and may be observed under carefully controlled laboratory conditions.
Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 16th October 17:42

Nimby

4,839 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Read "Bad Science " by Phil Plait. He has a whole chapter on why this is nonsense.
Do you mean "Bad Astronomy"? Bad Science is by Ben Goldacre (and brilliant, but doesn't mention water draining down plugholes).

PeanutHead

7,839 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Didn't Hammond do an experiment on one of the top gear episodes, 20 yards each side of the equator?

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Nimby said:
Eric Mc said:
Read "Bad Science " by Phil Plait. He has a whole chapter on why this is nonsense.
Do you mean "Bad Astronomy"? Bad Science is by Ben Goldacre (and brilliant, but doesn't mention water draining down plugholes).
Yep - I've read too many books beginning with "Bad".

Ben Goldacre's book is good too (he rightly tears into "Dr" Gillian McKeith).

SPS

1,306 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Errr - downwards a la Issac smokin

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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You can change the direction with your finger wherever you are. smile

Doshy

834 posts

223 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Doshy said:
hahahahahaha! Classic!!

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Easily impressed obviously.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Easily impressed obviously.
Unless that's the biggest whoosh in history, I think it's hilarious.

Doshy

834 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Pothole said:
Doshy said:
hahahahahaha! Classic!!
I love the little fella doing the experiment, he seems very happy with the outcome.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Doshy said:
Pothole said:
Doshy said:
hahahahahaha! Classic!!
I love the little fella doing the experiment, he seems very happy with the outcome.
OK, so not a whoosh then. Did you not notice that the OP posted exactly the link you did?

Doshy

834 posts

223 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Pothole said:
Doshy said:
Pothole said:
Doshy said:
hahahahahaha! Classic!!
I love the little fella doing the experiment, he seems very happy with the outcome.
OK, so not a whoosh then. Did you not notice that the OP posted exactly the link you did?
Er. no. oops.


I'll get my coat.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Doshy said:
Pothole said:
Doshy said:
Pothole said:
Doshy said:
hahahahahaha! Classic!!
I love the little fella doing the experiment, he seems very happy with the outcome.
OK, so not a whoosh then. Did you not notice that the OP posted exactly the link you did?
Er. no. oops.


I'll get my coat.
Superb.