Phobos Grunt, get the brolly out again

Phobos Grunt, get the brolly out again

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jmorgan

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Looks like its coming down around 15th give or take. Been a few recently.

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Eric Mc

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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I think it has been a 100% failure rate.

jmorgan

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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Tis a shame. They did get one on Venus, this must irk somewhat.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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jmorgan said:
Tis a shame. They did get one on Venus, this must irk somewhat.
More than one.

Wiki says ten - although some were more successful than others.

jmorgan

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Friday 6th January 2012
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Eric Mc

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Friday 6th January 2012
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Bedazzled said:
Eric Mc said:
I think it has been a 100% failure rate.
The same as Britain then?
One shot, one failure.

The Russians - about 20 shots and 20 failures. I would count that as 20 times worse.

jmorgan

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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There was a program on R4 (think it was radio) some time ago and what they had to do for Beagle in the time given was amazing. They were given a short space of time to design from the ground up and the instrumentation to be used including redesigning a mass spectrometer to the size of a fag packet and how it integrated to the machine for taking samples etc. If my memory records the program correctly.

jmorgan

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Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Looks like they are claiming sabotage now. Well, not quite but a nod and a wink.....

Spy here

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Not that any of us know of.

How would they have disabled a Soviet satellite from a Shuttle without anyone else noticing?

jmorgan

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Easy, open the window and chuck stones at it.

Sounds like sour grapes and there is a section of humanity that will lap this up. I bet HAARP gets an honourable mention in the usual circles.

Considering they have to proof these things for space it would seem that this is a bit of a lame claim and if they want to play this card then they should accept that they have not proofed it enough. Or drop this and hands up, got it wrong but perhaps they are frightened of Putin and he will play along for political gain.

jmorgan

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Very probably was underhand goings on in the cold war. I bet both sides were at it hammer and tongs within reason (MAD for satellites?) in the electronic warfare above atmosphere even if it was very passive. Trying to find out if there was a way to knock so and so satellite out if need arose. Faking transmissions and the like to get a result, radar to spot where it was and on and on.

But I think the scientific community as whole would have been very interested in the results. Not much is known about the moons, they assume they are captured asteroids and if samples could have been attained then clues to the make up and origin of the solar system to be found etc. Jupiter has a lot to answer for.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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We still haven't had a proper probe to the moons of Mars. The Russians tried one back in the late 80s/early 90s and that failed too.

Jinx

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
We still haven't had a proper probe to the moons of Mars. The Russians tried one back in the late 80s/early 90s and that failed too.
The leather goddesses don't want us spying......

jmorgan

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Blast from the past. Scratch n sniff cards.... there is something in the corner of the toilet (scratch card for a sniff)......

Seeker UK

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Bedazzled said:
Is that Johnny Morris?

Hoofy

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Thursday 12th January 2012
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Bedazzled said:
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Impressive kit, is that the same guy who's been tracking the X-37B?

I can't help thinking that is such an expensive piece of kit for such a st video. It would have been better if he had not bothered filming it.

Zad

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Thursday 12th January 2012
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Go on then, whip your iPhone out and do better.

jmorgan

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Thursday 12th January 2012
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Hoofy said:
I can't help thinking that is such an expensive piece of kit for such a st video. It would have been better if he had not bothered filming it.
This is the ISS. Part of the battle is getting the kit set up right and its fun understanding what is going on, the results may not be spectacular. Understanding what that bloke did and how, he deserves a pat on the back. Keeps us off the street.


Eric Mc

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Thursday 12th January 2012
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Hoofy said:
I can't help thinking that is such an expensive piece of kit for such a st video. It would have been better if he had not bothered filming it.
The object is over 100 miles above his head, is smaller than a van and travelling at 17,5000 mph. Could you do any better?

I am actually impressed with the images these chaps can capture.

jmorgan

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Thursday 12th January 2012
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More info. And finger pointing, and saying it won't go off just before it goes bang....
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The Mirror reckons anywhere south of Watford..... came up in the news search biggrin