Evolution - is it real?

Evolution - is it real?

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,915 posts

153 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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MYOB said:
deckster said:
MYOB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
and make you look like a moron.
Nice.
But fair.
How so?
Because of your moronic post below. Can you explain how you claim they were proven correct, whilst at the same time asserting that nothing is indisputable?

MYOB said:
I'm not convinced by evolution.

There used to be people that were convinced the earth wasn't flat. They were subsequently proven correct.

Nothing is indisputable

MYOB

4,869 posts

141 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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deckster said:
MYOB said:
deckster said:
MYOB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
and make you look like a moron.
Nice.
But fair.
How so?
You state, without reasoning, that you are unconvinced by probably the most well-proven scientific theory there has ever been.

You equate the theory of evolution by natural selection with the belief that the earth is flat.

You drop ludicrous statements and then say you are not going to engage, but persist in posting on this thread.

I maintain that the original impression is a fair one.


Edited by deckster on Tuesday 5th January 16:14
I've made it clear why I had no intentions of elaborating and it's insults like this that provides me with no incentive to elaborate.

Personal insults are not necessary.

standards

1,153 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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seefarr said:
Is this about Jesus? Because, and I'm sorry I had to be the one to break it to you but..... he's not real.

And neither is Santa.
Oh dear. I suppose that’s about average on PH.
And leave Santa out of it otherwise people will get upset.

It’s about evolution not the NT figure, the historicity or otherwise of whom would seem irrelevant to evolution.
Or am I missing something?

Again.

Skyedriver

18,173 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Brink said:
I find it difficult to believe that in this day and age there are folk who don't get evolution.
I get and understand Evolution
But was always an Impreza fan myself.

well it is PH after all

Eric Mc

122,399 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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MYOB said:
I've made it clear why I had no intentions of elaborating and it's insults like this that provides me with no incentive to elaborate.

Personal insults are not necessary.
Just because someone looks like moron does not mean they ARE a moron. You have the opportunity to disprove the theory that you might be a moron by showing some evidence that you aren't. So far, you've chosen to pass up on that opportunity.

off_again

12,499 posts

237 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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otolith said:
Next week - Australia, does it really exist?
I laughed when someone told me about this conspiracy theory - until I searched on YouTube! There are people out there that really believe that Australia doesnt exist! Truly shocked that people actually believe it!

Nimby

4,696 posts

153 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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JohnnyJones said:
... where are all the ‘half way’ animals? It’s not just the missing link between us and the monkeys that’s missing is it, there are thousands....
That's the rather pathetic "god of the gaps" argument. Obviously the fossil record is incomplete for many species, but for some, like horses, it's spectacularly good. And of course every time a new intermediate fossil is discovered, that's two more gaps for creationists.

The very fact that you think there's a "missing link" between monkeys and man proves you know nothing about evolutionary theory.

You could start by understanding the difference between the undisputed fact of evolution; "allele frequency in a species changes over time", and the current theory of how/why that happens (ie natural selection).


djcube

392 posts

73 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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There is an opening sequence on the Simpsons, I think that explains evolution quite well. While Homer is evolving nicely not sure whats happening to Moe I don't know. Could explain a lot?

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

154 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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thewarlock said:
otolith said:
Next week - Australia, does it really exist?
laugh

The ground looks flat outside of my window...
The Moon, will we ever go there?

paulguitar

24,460 posts

116 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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StuntmanMike said:
thewarlock said:
otolith said:
Next week - Australia, does it really exist?
laugh

The ground looks flat outside of my window...
The Moon, will we ever go there?
Do you believe there's a moon?

rofl

Eric Mc

122,399 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Forget about the moon - I want someone to prove for sure that the Sun exists (not the newspaper either).

MYOB

4,869 posts

141 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Forget about the moon - I want someone to prove for sure that the Sun exists (not the newspaper either).
Which sun? There are billions!

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Does the OP exist?

Esceptico

7,821 posts

112 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
Does the OP exist?
Suspicion that he trolled when opening this thread supported by his absence since lobbying the evolution bomb.

Evolution a fact, like the earth being (almost) spherical. Whether the theory of evolution is correct is irrelevant to the existence of evolution, just as theories as to why the earth is spherical won’t change its shape.

otherman

2,196 posts

168 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
otherman said:
You're one of the half way animals. Half way to what, we don't know yet.
First reply nailed it. Even if you didn’t intend for it to be an insult. hehe
I really didn't, it's a factually correct answer. I was aware of the comedy potential though of course. I'm a half way animal as well, give it a couple of million then come back and check out my descendents.

otolith

57,085 posts

207 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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otherman said:
I really didn't, it's a factually correct answer. I was aware of the comedy potential though of course. I'm a half way animal as well, give it a couple of million then come back and check out my descendents.
Part way to a multi-solar system species or some cold ashes. Though I suppose in the longest run we’re all cold ashes.

sociopath

3,433 posts

69 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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InitialDave said:
JohnnyJones said:
Evolution is a theory. If it happened / happens then where are all the ‘half way’ animals?
Rotherham.

JohnnyJones said:
It’s not just the missing link between us and the monkeys that’s missing is it
Definitely Rotherham.
As someone who grew up and left Rotherham as soon as possible, I concur - evolution there stopped in 1972

Caddyshack

11,070 posts

209 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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It is quite odd that we can believe in Santa then one day we are told he is not real and we accept it, same with the Easter bunny but because people do not want to accept that dead is dead they will still believe in Jesus / their religion.

Yet, everyone else’s religion / other religions are so obviously nonsense to us when we think about them.

When people say things like "he (the deceased) will be up there looking down and think this is very funny" it just makes me think they are delusional.

Sorry if this offends people with strong beliefs.

Caddyshack

11,070 posts

209 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Brink said:
I find it difficult to believe that in this day and age there are folk who don't get evolution.
I get and understand Evolution
But was always an Impreza fan myself.
I don’t think this got the credit it deserved. Well done that man!

blueg33

36,763 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Caddyshack said:
It is quite odd that we can believe in Santa then one day we are told he is not real and we accept it, same with the Easter bunny but because people do not want to accept that dead is dead they will still believe in Jesus / their religion.

Yet, everyone else’s religion / other religions are so obviously nonsense to us when we think about them.

When people say things like "he (the deceased) will be up there looking down and think this is very funny" it just makes me think they are delusional.

Sorry if this offends people with strong beliefs.
The people who believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny are 5 years old.

Religion is slightly different. It seems likely that those who are revered by a religion were probably just charismatic leaders - something we are not used to today

Combine charismatic leader with 2000 years of Chinese whispers and you get religion.....