SpaceX (Vol. 2)

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annodomini2

6,886 posts

254 months

Saturday 8th June
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GTO-3R said:
Tim Dodd released a clip of his upcoming interview with Elon where he talks about the "gap" in the fins and how it could be an issue on re-entry. Turns out he was right hehe Would've been amazing if they could've recovered that flap and put it pride of place at SpaceX HQ!

They will have this nailed for the next flight which I hear could be in July eek
There shouldn't be a mishap report after this one, they have exemptions for the re-entry heatshield failures, engine failures during landing and loss of control during simulated landing (barring injury, loss of life etc).

So in theory, the license remains valid. They have permission for 5 flights from BC this year.

I think they will want the second tower built before the next launch, so they can test the Booster landing. (assuming it was accurate enough on IFT4).

What would be nice to see (for me) is if they could put it on a parabolic trajectory that would bring it in off the coast of Hawaii or California, where they could set up cameras to understand the heatshield state. But they're likely going to need Starship V2 to fix it.


Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Saturday 8th June
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Did you see that as the booster was doing its final descent, the catching arms on the tower were also closing as they simulated a capture? Kinda freaky.

Yes, they probably need that second tower ready, or close to it, as it'll probably not work initially and trash the place. Perhaps have one tower for catching and the other for launching for a while too.

They're doing the foundations of the second tower currently. Most of the tower sections are sat nearby already and the few parts remaining are about to be loading onto a barge in Cape Canaveral to be shipped round to Texas.

Catching the ship is a long way off. It has to come in from the west, overflying northern Mexico and part of the US to get back home. They'll need a few more successful flights before they're allowed to do that I imagine.


louiechevy

654 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th June
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Zad

12,724 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th June
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louiechevy said:
Flippin' eck! I thought it looked pretty good from the live footage, but that looks absolutely perfect! It almost looks like you could have stood on a grid fin and not fallen off, it was that smooth and precise. They are going to be really happy with that. Especially given the engine failures they had.

ETA, 6km off target, it seems. and I guess all the flames on the right are an engine undergoing rapid unscheduled disassembly. And yet it still made what looks like a perfect plopdown. That's like a splashdown but less splashy.

Edited by Zad on Saturday 8th June 18:02

Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Saturday 8th June
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Very impressive. Looks like the support ship GO America was in the area, so it was probably her who dropped off and collected the monitoring buoys.


They did the 60th launch of the year earlier today - a Falcon 9, which landed safely on a drone ship. The 244th straight landing in a row.

Dog Star

16,236 posts

171 months

Saturday 8th June
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Booster was bang on target; the Ship was 6km off.

Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Saturday 8th June
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The final 2 sections and chopstick arms for the second Starship tower are now on their way to Brownsville, Texas from Cape Canaveral.



The barge they're on is very similar to the ones they use for Falcon 9 landing ships.

98elise

27,121 posts

164 months

Sunday 9th June
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Dog Star said:
Booster was bang on target; the Ship was 6km off.
Thats what I thought, hence video of the booster landing. If the ship was 6km off target then its unlikely we will see footage.

MartG

20,807 posts

207 months

Sunday 9th June
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rofl


annodomini2

6,886 posts

254 months

Sunday 9th June
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MartG said:
rofl


Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Monday 10th June
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Elon says that the left flap also got very hot, but was less damaged.

“Rear flaps seemed to be ok, based on their control authority, but probably lost some tiles”

Talksteer

4,994 posts

236 months

Monday 10th June
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Beati Dogu said:
Elon says that the left flap also got very hot, but was less damaged.

“Rear flaps seemed to be ok, based on their control authority, but probably lost some tiles”
Was NASA's Canberra watching the re-entry with an infrared camera?

annodomini2

6,886 posts

254 months

Monday 10th June
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Talksteer said:
Beati Dogu said:
Elon says that the left flap also got very hot, but was less damaged.

“Rear flaps seemed to be ok, based on their control authority, but probably lost some tiles”
Was NASA's Canberra watching the re-entry with an infrared camera?
Half way around the world, probably not.

I think that may have been the intention with IFT 1 & 2 where they planned to come in over Hawaii.

Talksteer

4,994 posts

236 months

Monday 10th June
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annodomini2 said:
Talksteer said:
Beati Dogu said:
Elon says that the left flap also got very hot, but was less damaged.

“Rear flaps seemed to be ok, based on their control authority, but probably lost some tiles”
Was NASA's Canberra watching the re-entry with an infrared camera?
Half way around the world, probably not.

I think that may have been the intention with IFT 1 & 2 where they planned to come in over Hawaii.
Could have flown the Canberra to Diego Garcia, but yes I guess they could probably get as much data from a massive load of thermocouples.

Wayoftheflower

1,343 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Probably the world's leading defence economics youtuber, Perun, has a look at space this week. Includes quite a lot on SpaceX's cost to orbit and share of the market.
https://youtu.be/effFp6AnCWo?feature=shared

Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Friday 14th June
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Now here’s an interesting perspective of a Falcon 9 rocket launch: A couple of F-22 Raptors do a flyby of Cape Canaveral and decide to have some fun, light the afterburners and storm climb up to 18,000 feet after it.



Then they headed west for the Orlando air show.

The rocket was on a Starlink mission from Pad 40.

MartG

20,807 posts

207 months

Friday 14th June
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A rare last second abort from tonight's Falcon 9 Starlink mission - engines started then were cut after half a second

Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Monday 17th June
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They've taken that one down from SLC-40, as it needs to be inspected. It would have been the 16th flight of this booster (B1073).
It's now penciled in for Friday 21st June instead.

Instead they're going with the launch of the ASTRA 1P comms satellite on the evening of the 18th, from the same pad.

They've got a Starlink launch out of Vandenberg a bit before that as well.


I don't believe they can do Falcon 9 launches from Pad 39a currently, as they've converted the transporter erector for the Falcon Heavy. That launch is set for next Tuesday, 25th June and will launch the GOES-U weather satellite for NOAA. They're always fun. That's currently at 5.16 pm local time (10.16pm UK time).



Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Wednesday 19th June
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The Vandenberg Starlink flight went up & down OK. The booster's 5th time and SpaceX's 250th drone ship landing overall.

The ASTRA 1P mission was delayed due to adverse weather in Florida. They'll try again on the 20th.



Meanwhile at Starbase, tower 2 begins to rise



Tropical Storm Alberto is lurking nearby, so that is making things interesting right now.

Beati Dogu

8,989 posts

142 months

Friday 21st June
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Nice pic of Crew Dragon Endeavour connected to the ISS. The lens flare is from the Moon, just out of shot.



Taken by US astronaut Matthew Dominick from the window of the Starliner capsule docked next door