Discussion
Guvernator said:
More UFO congress hearings this week. Aliens in our oceans seems to be the new theme.
Again I've listened to a bit of it in the background. Zero real evidence and just more anecdotal evidence, hearsay and "I can't discuss that here" type discussions. I'm not really sure what the point of these hearings are tbh when no actual evidence is presented.
Didn't that happen last week?Again I've listened to a bit of it in the background. Zero real evidence and just more anecdotal evidence, hearsay and "I can't discuss that here" type discussions. I'm not really sure what the point of these hearings are tbh when no actual evidence is presented.
They live under the sea apparently
Always little balls of light…always more “info to shock the world” next year…always another whistleblower…always another leak…always governments are reverse engineering…
Yet here we are, multiple decades on and still no evidence or better footage of these UFOs.
Apparently reverse engineering since Roswell…yet we can’t even manage to complete a train track from London to Leeds…
Yet here we are, multiple decades on and still no evidence or better footage of these UFOs.
Apparently reverse engineering since Roswell…yet we can’t even manage to complete a train track from London to Leeds…
I watched the videos of these guys sitting before the committee making extraordinary claims. To my mind the committee need to say either a). utter b
ks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.
I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
ks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
WelshChris said:
I watched the videos of these guys sitting before the committee making extraordinary claims. To my mind the committee need to say either a). utter bks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.
I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
It's not going to be big bang, here's the "whatever UAPs are", it's a process.ks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
They're warming the public up for whatever are these things.
The main goal of these meetings is for congress to try and get oversight of whatever is this program. Something they are supposedly legally entitled to under the US Constitution.
Should after that point the US government and probably in conjunction with other significant world governments choose to announce what they know, then they will, but it's not going to be whoever is the US president at the time, wheeling out some evidence, at least not for some time, possibly decades.
annodomini2 said:
WelshChris said:
I watched the videos of these guys sitting before the committee making extraordinary claims. To my mind the committee need to say either a). utter bks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.
I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
It's not going to be big bang, here's the "whatever UAPs are", it's a process.ks - go away and stop wasting our time or b). show us the evidence, but in private. I'm not sure either happened.I don't entirely disbelieve what I heard, but it's pointless making these hearings public if the discussion is then continued behind closed doors. Either make it all public or get lost!
They're warming the public up for whatever are these things.
The main goal of these meetings is for congress to try and get oversight of whatever is this program. Something they are supposedly legally entitled to under the US Constitution.
Should after that point the US government and probably in conjunction with other significant world governments choose to announce what they know, then they will, but it's not going to be whoever is the US president at the time, wheeling out some evidence, at least not for some time, possibly decades.
If indeed they are warming up the public, I'd expect at least a modicum of some actual evidence. You can't warm up the public peddling the same speculative crap we've been hearing for decades, all you'll do is warm up the conspiracy theorists.
Anyone with a modicum of critical thinking will soon get bored and write it off as the waste of time it is.
Anyone with a modicum of critical thinking will soon get bored and write it off as the waste of time it is.
RSTurboPaul said:
Mr Whippy said:
We’ve seen the evidence of polarity flips in the material either side of the mid Atlantic rift though.
It’s obviously an event that happens quickly but not instantly even in geological terms, so any weakening in the field is likely a part of that process.
And life has survived time and again.
But doom sells.
Wake up tomorrow and same as day before doesn’t sell.
Has there been a previous point in history where we are so dependent on things that can be damaged by large doses of electromagnetic radiation etc.? It’s obviously an event that happens quickly but not instantly even in geological terms, so any weakening in the field is likely a part of that process.
And life has survived time and again.
But doom sells.
Wake up tomorrow and same as day before doesn’t sell.
I am wondering how doom-y it will be if the protective fields surrounding the planet disappear for a while while the flip takes place... lol
But hey, hubris comes with a price.
Bill said:
Or it's utter wibble fueled by conspiracy theorists in congress.
Absolutely.There has never been a shred of credible evidence from anyone about UFO’s, in my opinion.
As far as I can see, the whole UFO debate over the last 100+ years has been fuelled by nothing but conspiracy nut jobs, attention seekers, liars, fantasists, someone with a book to sell, someone with a TV show to sell, someone who has an axe to grind with a government employer, someone looking for fame, someone wanting a payout, and people who are just mentally ill.
These people exist everywhere. Just because they are a congressman, a senator, a police officer, a high ranking military official, a CEO, a highly paid contractor, or similar, doesn’t mean they aren’t a conspiracy loon or attention seeker.
If there actually was anything being kept secret by a government, it would have been properly leaked dozens of times by now. There would be far too many people involved in any project for it to remain under wraps indefinitely. That’s before we even get to the discussion about the public witnessing such things.
Mont Blanc said:
Absolutely.
There has never been a shred of credible evidence from anyone about UFO’s, in my opinion.
As far as I can see, the whole UFO debate over the last 100+ years has been fuelled by nothing but conspiracy nut jobs, attention seekers, liars, fantasists, someone with a book to sell, someone with a TV show to sell, someone who has an axe to grind with a government employer, someone looking for fame, someone wanting a payout, and people who are just mentally ill.
These people exist everywhere. Just because they are a congressman, a senator, a police officer, a high ranking military official, a CEO, a highly paid contractor, or similar, doesn’t mean they aren’t a conspiracy loon or attention seeker.
If there actually was anything being kept secret by a government, it would have been properly leaked dozens of times by now. There would be far too many people involved in any project for it to remain under wraps indefinitely. That’s before we even get to the discussion about the public witnessing such things.
Pretty much agree with that. Our imagination and desire for attention/cash is massively outstripping reality, which is frustrating for those who believe that there is life elsewhere but we're yet to find the evidence. There has never been a shred of credible evidence from anyone about UFO’s, in my opinion.
As far as I can see, the whole UFO debate over the last 100+ years has been fuelled by nothing but conspiracy nut jobs, attention seekers, liars, fantasists, someone with a book to sell, someone with a TV show to sell, someone who has an axe to grind with a government employer, someone looking for fame, someone wanting a payout, and people who are just mentally ill.
These people exist everywhere. Just because they are a congressman, a senator, a police officer, a high ranking military official, a CEO, a highly paid contractor, or similar, doesn’t mean they aren’t a conspiracy loon or attention seeker.
If there actually was anything being kept secret by a government, it would have been properly leaked dozens of times by now. There would be far too many people involved in any project for it to remain under wraps indefinitely. That’s before we even get to the discussion about the public witnessing such things.
Blackpuddin said:
Pretty much agree with that. Our imagination and desire for attention/cash is massively outstripping reality, which is frustrating for those who believe that there is life elsewhere but we're yet to find the evidence.
Agreed.I have no issue with someone saying there might be life elsewhere in the universe. It is entirely possible. It cannot be proven or disproven at this stage.
I have no issue with scientists, engineers, and astronomers trying to find signs of alien life. I find it really interesting actually, especially the radio telescope stuff.
But I have no time for those who muddy the waters constantly for reasons known only to themselves, by claiming to have some form of proof, or claim to have worked on a secret project, or claim to have had some kind of experience/sighting/encounter.
As someone said earlier in this thread, it’s funny how most of the sightings seem to occur over Bubba’s house in s
tsville, Tennessee, 150 miles from any civilisation, rather than landing in Hyde Park.zek said:
Anyone else following the current 'drone' situation ? Truly bizarre.
Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
I saw the New Jersey vid, they apparently were V-22 Ospreys, they can turn without significant banking at slow speeds and make the prop/drone type noise heard.Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
honda_exige said:
zek said:
Anyone else following the current 'drone' situation ? Truly bizarre.
Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
I saw the New Jersey vid, they apparently were V-22 Ospreys, they can turn without significant banking at slow speeds and make the prop/drone type noise heard.Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
skwdenyer said:
honda_exige said:
zek said:
Anyone else following the current 'drone' situation ? Truly bizarre.
Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
I saw the New Jersey vid, they apparently were V-22 Ospreys, they can turn without significant banking at slow speeds and make the prop/drone type noise heard.Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
NRG1976 said:
skwdenyer said:
honda_exige said:
zek said:
Anyone else following the current 'drone' situation ? Truly bizarre.
Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
I saw the New Jersey vid, they apparently were V-22 Ospreys, they can turn without significant banking at slow speeds and make the prop/drone type noise heard.Mass sightings currently in New Jersey, USA with reported craft 'dressed up' to appear like conventional aircraft but flying far too low and slow and turning without banking.
Interesting times.
AceRockatansky said:
Mont Blanc said:
Blackpuddin said:
Pretty much agree with that. Our imagination and desire for attention/cash is massively outstripping reality, which is frustrating for those who believe that there is life elsewhere but we're yet to find the evidence.
Agreed.I have no issue with someone saying there might be life elsewhere in the universe. It is entirely possible. It cannot be proven or disproven at this stage.
I have no issue with scientists, engineers, and astronomers trying to find signs of alien life. I find it really interesting actually, especially the radio telescope stuff.
But I have no time for those who muddy the waters constantly for reasons known only to themselves, by claiming to have some form of proof, or claim to have worked on a secret project, or claim to have had some kind of experience/sighting/encounter.
As someone said earlier in this thread, it’s funny how most of the sightings seem to occur over Bubba’s house in s
tsville, Tennessee, 150 miles from any civilisation, rather than landing in Hyde Park.Please enlighten me as to what the point is.
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