UFO Thread

[Blackpuddin]

interesting

[rovermorris999]

PRTVR said:

A different view of UFO/UAP or whatever you want to call them, plasma exhibiting signs of intelligent life in the upper atmosphere, I remember seeing a video from the space station that showed a a donut shaped object that had no explanation from the scientists.
https://youtu.be/zqMPh0fyuNk?si=M9Eb-gC5R4Oe9HMB

It's only 5 minutes long so will not waste too much of your time.

I watched a video a while back, I think by Prof. Simon Holland, that suggested the 'Foo Fighter' sightings towards the end of the war were indeed plasma balls induced in certain atmospheric conditions by more powerful German radar systems which to my rusty BSc-level physics seems quite possible.
The uptick in these types of sighting in recent years may possibly be connected to the rapid and accelerating weakening of the Earth's magnetic field which is currently happening. This allows greater penetration of the atmosphere by both cosmic rays and solar radiation as witnessed by auroras being seen more frequently further south than before. Even a fairly unexceptional coronal mass ejection is capable of creating significant auroras. Anyone interested in such things may like Spaceweather.com where you can also see news of a comet that hopefully will be visible in daylight next month.

[LuckyThirteen]

Ash_ said:

It's interesting, there are a few scientists looking in to it now, some are very high profile and very well credentialed. Avi Loeb and Gary Nolan (Gary Nolan is a self made millionaire with his discoveries etc). Lots of strange things, and a lot of coincidence.

Without government openness the world is reliant on such scientists to make and publish the discoveries.....if there's anything to discover.

Careful mentioning Loeb.

The armchair expert sceptics on here attempted to discredit him way way earlier in this thread.

While ignoring the question of deviation.

[Guvernator]

rovermorris999 said:

I watched a video a while back, I think by Prof. Simon Holland, that suggested the 'Foo Fighter' sightings towards the end of the war were indeed plasma balls induced in certain atmospheric conditions by more powerful German radar systems which to my rusty BSc-level physics seems quite possible.
The uptick in these types of sighting in recent years may possibly be connected to the rapid and accelerating weakening of the Earth's magnetic field which is currently happening. This allows greater penetration of the atmosphere by both cosmic rays and solar radiation as witnessed by auroras being seen more frequently further south than before. Even a fairly unexceptional coronal mass ejection is capable of creating significant auroras. Anyone interested in such things may like Spaceweather.com where you can also see news of a comet that hopefully will be visible in daylight next month.

First I've heard about the rapid weakening of the magnetic field, got any sources?

Weird I haven't seen any mention of it before this post, weakening of the magnetic field would lead to an extinction level threat and should be taken much more seriously than climate change.

[rovermorris999]

Guvernator said:

First I've heard about the rapid weakening of the magnetic field, got any sources?

Weird I haven't seen any mention of it before this post, weakening of the magnetic field would lead to an extinction level threat and should be taken much more seriously than climate change.

Yes it is strange that it's not talked about. I've looked at some stuff from a physicist called Ben Davidson, he has a Youtube channel called Suspicious0bservers (sic).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlVhswYead4&li...

He's convinced the game is up, either from the magnetic excursion or a solar micronova. Micronova were poo-pooed for many years as nonsense until inconveniently new space telescopes like Hubble have spotted them in recent years. Hopefully he's wrong!

Davidson is religious and a bit of a prepper so easy to characterise as a tinfoil hat wearer but he is a decent scientist and he always links to the papers he references so you can read them and make your own mind up. He posts a daily video, worth watching as there's a lot going on in the realm of solar and astrophysics that never gets reported.

There are other sources if you dig hard enough.

[Bill]

PRTVR said:

A different view of UFO/UAP or whatever you want to call them, plasma exhibiting signs of intelligent life in the upper atmosphere, I remember seeing a video from the space station that showed a a donut shaped object that had no explanation from the scientists.
https://youtu.be/zqMPh0fyuNk?si=M9Eb-gC5R4Oe9HMB

It's only 5 minutes long so will not waste too much of your time.

Here's the actual article. https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?pap...

It concludes it's plasma and not life, although it does make the leap that some must be as the military won't release the videos:

"However, given that the U.S. Dept. of Defense has classified and refuses to release an unknown number of military videos depicting UAP [66] it is reasonable to suspect that some UAP might be from extraterrestrial civilizations where humanoids evolved on worlds much older than our own."

[thegreenhell]

Guvernator said:

First I've heard about the rapid weakening of the magnetic field, got any sources?

Weird I haven't seen any mention of it before this post, weakening of the magnetic field would lead to an extinction level threat and should be taken much more seriously than climate change.

What until they find a way to blame it on motorists and you'll not here the end of it.

[Bill]

Guvernator said:

First I've heard about the rapid weakening of the magnetic field, got any sources?

Weird I haven't seen any mention of it before this post, weakening of the magnetic field would lead to an extinction level threat and should be taken much more seriously than climate change.

"Rapid weakening" depends on what scale you measure the speed. Does 9% over 200 years count?

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/e...

[MBBlat]

rovermorris999 said:

Yes it is strange that it's not talked about. I've looked at some stuff from a physicist called Ben Davidson, he has a Youtube channel called Suspicious0bservers (sic).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlVhswYead4&li...

He's convinced the game is up, either from the magnetic excursion or a solar micronova. Micronova were poo-pooed for many years as nonsense until inconveniently new space telescopes like Hubble have spotted them in recent years. Hopefully he's wrong!

Davidson is religious and a bit of a prepper so easy to characterise as a tinfoil hat wearer but he is a decent scientist and he always links to the papers he references so you can read them and make your own mind up. He posts a daily video, worth watching as there's a lot going on in the realm of solar and astrophysics that never gets reported.

There are other sources if you dig hard enough.

You might want to review your sources, Davidson is an economist not a physicist, who thinks volcanoes are caused by magnetism.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Suspicious0bservers

[rovermorris999]

Electro-magnetism has a role.
As I said, read the papers that are referenced in the daily videos and make you own mind up. it's easy to use straw man tactics especially against someone like Davidson. I've read his books and looked at the papers and sources referenced, decent sources like NASA , major universities and proper scientific journals. He obviously sensationalises somewhat as he make a living at it but if you can see through that he seems to have some valid conclusions. Whether they are correct or not is debatable but please debate what is said not denigrate who is saying it.
This all very interesting but very much o/t so back to UFOs perhaps? I think natural or induced plasma look like interesting possibilities for many of the tic-toc type incidents.

Edited by rovermorris999 on Saturday 28th September 07:33

[rovermorris999]

Bill said:

"Rapid weakening" depends on what scale you measure the speed. Does 9% over 200 years count?

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/e...

Both NASA and the ESA Swarm mission say it's more than that. The rate has gone from 5% loss per century to 5% per decade. The data is out there, google is your friend. The poles are moving too, especially the North, https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/artic... figure 4.

But all this is off topic so back to UFOs!

[Bill]

Link doesn't work for me. Google is my friend indeed, all I can find is that the north pole is shifting faster than it has, there's the SAA and a NASA blog that repeats the 9% in 200 years statistic.

[rovermorris999]

Bill said:

Link doesn't work for me. Google is my friend indeed, all I can find is that the north pole is shifting faster than it has, there's the SAA and a NASA blog that repeats the 9% in 200 years statistic.

The links works for me but never mind, we're all dead in the long run. In fact google often isn't much use unless you are very specific in the search for stuff like this. Much of the information is buried in scientific papers and journals and although they may be indexed by search engines they are rarely searched for so will be at the bottom of a general search on a topic. Still, back on topic I think.

Edited by rovermorris999 on Saturday 28th September 09:08

[skeeterm5]

rovermorris999 said:

Both NASA and the ESA Swarm mission say it's more than that. The rate has gone from 5% loss per century to 5% per decade. The data is out there, google is your friend. The poles are moving too, especially the North, https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/artic... figure 4.

But all this is off topic so back to UFOs!

Possibly an early indicator of a pole swap where north and south swap.

[rovermorris999]

skeeterm5 said:

Possibly an early indicator of a pole swap where north and south swap.

Possibly. It's happened several times in the last 60k years apparently. Look up the Gothenberg, Hilina Pali, Lake Mungo, Mono Lake, Laschamp and Greenland events. A fascinating area of science with much new stuff being discovered all the time, often challenging established hypotheses and the holders of the established views can often be very vociferous protecting them as their reputations and hence funding depend on it. The science world is full of big egos. Of course, different people look at the same data and come to different conclusions so it's fun to speculate.

Again I'm drifting o/t so I'll shut up now.

Edited by rovermorris999 on Saturday 28th September 10:42

[928 GTS]

There seems to be very large number of Youtube videos etc. doing rounds about UFO's lately. US Congress is holding hearing in November and people are hoping to get something meaningful out of it. Not going to happen. Mothership needs to land on White house lawn and even then its said to be CGI.

[Guvernator]

928 GTS said:

There seems to be very large number of Youtube videos etc. doing rounds about UFO's lately. US Congress is holding hearing in November and people are hoping to get something meaningful out of it. Not going to happen. Mothership needs to land on White house lawn and even then its said to be CGI.

While your post may be a little tongue in cheek, it's actually spot-on. I got a bit excited when I first heard about the whistle-blower and how a high ranking official was going to release real info about UFO's in a state hearing.

However as with pretty much everything else surrounding the topic of UFO's, it turned out to be a lot of hot air. It really is rather disappointing that everytime we think we are going to get some actual verifiable information, we get the same BS.

It really does not do the whole UFO thing any favours that even high ranking officials basically end up sounding like hillbilly "I was abducted by aliens" crackpots. Just show us some effing rational, verifiable proof or STFU.

[Guvernator]

More UFO congress hearings this week. Aliens in our oceans seems to be the new theme.

Again I've listened to a bit of it in the background. Zero real evidence and just more anecdotal evidence, hearsay and "I can't discuss that here" type discussions. I'm not really sure what the point of these hearings are tbh when no actual evidence is presented.

[Mr Whippy]

rovermorris999 said:

Bill said:

"Rapid weakening" depends on what scale you measure the speed. Does 9% over 200 years count?

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/e...

Both NASA and the ESA Swarm mission say it's more than that. The rate has gone from 5% loss per century to 5% per decade. The data is out there, google is your friend. The poles are moving too, especially the North, https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/artic... figure 4.

But all this is off topic so back to UFOs!

We’ve seen the evidence of polarity flips in the material either side of the mid Atlantic rift though.

It’s obviously an event that happens quickly but not instantly even in geological terms, so any weakening in the field is likely a part of that process.

And life has survived time and again.


But doom sells.

Wake up tomorrow and same as day before doesn’t sell.

[RSTurboPaul]

Mr Whippy said:

We’ve seen the evidence of polarity flips in the material either side of the mid Atlantic rift though.

It’s obviously an event that happens quickly but not instantly even in geological terms, so any weakening in the field is likely a part of that process.

And life has survived time and again.


But doom sells.

Wake up tomorrow and same as day before doesn’t sell.

Has there been a previous point in history where we are so dependent on things that can be damaged by large doses of electromagnetic radiation etc.?

I am wondering how doom-y it will be if the protective fields surrounding the planet disappear for a while while the flip takes place... lol