WRC suspension and road cars?

[M030ef00]

Would it be possible to put a WRC suspension setup on a normal road going 2018 STI? Would that be something that one could live with or would it be utterly unpleasant to drive?
Approximately how much does WRC level suspension cost? I've heard £30k a corner! What make and model of coil over would get you 95% of the way there, say, something might not be quite as durable as full WRC but still give you 95% of the the performance and survive a couple of jumps?
Many thanks 😁

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Give EXE-TC a call. You can get something close for less than 30k a corner.

Still won't handle like a wrc car, but it'll be night and day better than the coilover crap you normally find on jap cars. Also you won't have the skills to set up wrc spec dampers given the range of adjustment they have.

10k should see you right.

I have basic exe-TC on my grp n lancer. Best way to describe the difference is the car feels several hundred kilos lighter when cornering.

Eta... Also try Reiger and Ohlins. There are others but my memory fails me.

Edited by take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey on Saturday 5th October 15:06

[GravelBen]

A full WRC setup would be very different (there isn't much shared between WRC and road cars), but there are likely to be a variety of off the shelf Group-N / R4 level setups available (which would also be much cheaper).

[vxr2010]

i’m going to throw a more practicable reply in here , why not just buy some really good road going suspension from a good manufacture and save a lot of money , tein basics are cheap but strangely work quite well as i had on my wagon , i’ve had two sets of bc that were totally different but were ok , i think current one has blitz suspension which seems very good but i’m sure there are many other suggestions ,to make a car fast on a track it’s tyres brakes and suspension so not all about power lol

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

vxr2010 said:

i’m going to throw a more practicable reply in here , why not just buy some really good road going suspension from a good manufacture and save a lot of money , tein basics are cheap but strangely work quite well as i had on my wagon , i’ve had two sets of bc that were totally different but were ok , i think current one has blitz suspension which seems very good but i’m sure there are many other suggestions ,to make a car fast on a track it’s tyres brakes and suspension so not all about power lol

Gonna have to disagree. Not gonna going to name and shame, but I wouldn't put any of those brands on a car. Teins are the best of the bunch but not really suited to UK roads.

They just don't offer good value for money with respect to a) reliability and b) improvements over stock.

Especially when ~ 2k / 2.5k will get you a set of ohlins + fitting.

Edited by take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey on Sunday 6th October 14:01

[vxr2010]

it’s not really disagreeing with me lol , i agree with you , there are other good options out there that are way cheaper than a wrc set and work well was what i’m aiming at

[untakenname]

Tein coilovers range from £400 to £4k+ and the adage you get what you pay for applies, I've got some circuit masters on my WRX with EDFC and they handle well on poor roads, the ability to change the damping settings from inside the car at speed is useful.

[MDMA .]

I think only Group N suspension would fit. Group A and WRC are completely different units and would need hubs and everything else to fit.

[M030ef00]

Many thanks for all the replies.
Just one further probably rather dim question, is there a single suspension and brakes set up that would suit a sub7min nurburgring time but that could also be adjusted to survive the sort of jump and rough surface abuse that a WRC/group B rally car would face...?

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

M030ef00 said:

Many thanks for all the replies.
Just one further probably rather dim question, is there a single suspension and brakes set up that would suit a sub7min nurburgring time but that could also be adjusted to survive the sort of jump and rough surface abuse that a WRC/group B rally car would face...?

Short answer no.

Watch this for a nice summary of the delta between tarmac and gravel at WRC level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnAUqHHq2k

[untakenname]

Best bet is to emulate the Nurburgring 24 class winning Subaru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEfYNz1KokM
(the speed in which the crew can change the actual brake calipers is insane)

Close up of suspension, looks like it still bottomed out.


Close up

[MDMA .]

M030ef00 said:

Many thanks for all the replies.
Just one further probably rather dim question, is there a single suspension and brakes set up that would suit a sub7min nurburgring time but that could also be adjusted to survive the sort of jump and rough surface abuse that a WRC/group B rally car would face...?

There's only been 8 "road" cars that have cracked sub 7 minute ring times. You're not going to do it in a 2018 STI with modified brakes and suspension

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

untakenname said:

Best bet is to emulate the Nurburgring 24 class winning Subaru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEfYNz1KokM
(the speed in which the crew can change the actual brake calipers is insane)

Close up of suspension, looks like it still bottomed out.


Close up

To be fair if you didn't have to soak the bolts or apply heat to get bloody bits off you could do that with most Grp N cars.

[Hoojammyflip]

I put some Ohlins R&T on my Legacy - much improved feeling of grippiness

- I was hoping for better ride over the horrendous potholes on the UK roads - but if I recall correctly they were still quite noticeable when I had my V8 Discovery - so it shouldn't have been any surprise really!

- Big improvement over the BC racing coilovers anyway... Hope you get sorted.