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Really tempted by a 2006 or thereabouts Impreza. I don't do huge mileage at the moment but equally with the price of fuel I don't want to do something stupid. Are the turbo models as bad as has been suggested in real life, or is that only if you drive around everywhere at 1,000 mph? Are the non turbo ones significantly better for economy?
Obviously you don't buy an Impreza for its MPG I just want to know if its bad, really bad or stupidly awful.
Obviously you don't buy an Impreza for its MPG I just want to know if its bad, really bad or stupidly awful.
I have a 2006 Hawkeye WRX (ie the 2.5l) with the PPP .
Been doing a fair bit of mixed town driving plus some motorway over the last 4 days, just worked out 25mpg. Usual average is 28mpg as it's normally more clear motorway.. which works out average 250-300 miles per tank, tho I mainly refill when I've passed the halfway mark.
Used to have a 2.0l WRX and it was about the same .
Hope that helps.
Been doing a fair bit of mixed town driving plus some motorway over the last 4 days, just worked out 25mpg. Usual average is 28mpg as it's normally more clear motorway.. which works out average 250-300 miles per tank, tho I mainly refill when I've passed the halfway mark.
Used to have a 2.0l WRX and it was about the same .
Hope that helps.
Goldmember1 said:
I have a 2006 Hawkeye WRX (ie the 2.5l) with the PPP .
Been doing a fair bit of mixed town driving plus some motorway over the last 4 days, just worked out 25mpg. Usual average is 28mpg as it's normally more clear motorway.. which works out average 250-300 miles per tank, tho I mainly refill when I've passed the halfway mark.
Used to have a 2.0l WRX and it was about the same .
Hope that helps.
Second that. 250-300 average for me Been doing a fair bit of mixed town driving plus some motorway over the last 4 days, just worked out 25mpg. Usual average is 28mpg as it's normally more clear motorway.. which works out average 250-300 miles per tank, tho I mainly refill when I've passed the halfway mark.
Used to have a 2.0l WRX and it was about the same .
Hope that helps.
IF mpg is a big issue to you then you're thinking of buying the wrong car. Take those rosy specs off and be under no illusions about scoobys. Drive them like your granny even on a run and you will get OK mpg for the kind of car it is.
Stray too far from driving it like your granny and you will see that fuel gauge needle drop before your very eyes.
Drive it normally and you might see 20-25ish regulary which still isn't bad, and has has been said a lot less around town.
It has to be said though, we don't buy these cars to drive them like our grannies, they are there to be driven so expect to see low to medium mpg.
Stray too far from driving it like your granny and you will see that fuel gauge needle drop before your very eyes.
Drive it normally and you might see 20-25ish regulary which still isn't bad, and has has been said a lot less around town.
It has to be said though, we don't buy these cars to drive them like our grannies, they are there to be driven so expect to see low to medium mpg.
Thanks, that's pretty much what I expected, just wanted some real-world info to back up what I'd heard.
No rose-tinted specs here, and I've got enough years of rallying and riding bikes under my belt that I'm quite happy driving Granny-style most of the time. It's nice to let your hair down once in a while though ... :-)
No rose-tinted specs here, and I've got enough years of rallying and riding bikes under my belt that I'm quite happy driving Granny-style most of the time. It's nice to let your hair down once in a while though ... :-)
DynoDad said:
Thanks, that's pretty much what I expected, just wanted some real-world info to back up what I'd heard.
No rose-tinted specs here, and I've got enough years of rallying and riding bikes under my belt that I'm quite happy driving Granny-style most of the time. It's nice to let your hair down once in a while though ... :-)
I hope you can resist the temptation because once you see how swift progress can be with just a little extra toe flexing (specially on a remapped car) it soon becomes the norm. No rose-tinted specs here, and I've got enough years of rallying and riding bikes under my belt that I'm quite happy driving Granny-style most of the time. It's nice to let your hair down once in a while though ... :-)
Was thinking of getting one, advertised figures are the best, i.e. floating down the hill kinda figures.. When you consider how hot the hatches and the way they handle, they generally are better on fuel also..
Its one thing ive always wondered about the scoobs and evo's - why they were never able to produce as good mpg figures as the fast hatches when they both give similar bhp figures
Its one thing ive always wondered about the scoobs and evo's - why they were never able to produce as good mpg figures as the fast hatches when they both give similar bhp figures
ge0rge said:
Was thinking of getting one, advertised figures are the best, i.e. floating down the hill kinda figures.. When you consider how hot the hatches and the way they handle, they generally are better on fuel also..
Its one thing ive always wondered about the scoobs and evo's - why they were never able to produce as good mpg figures as the fast hatches when they both give similar bhp figures
They were just a bit behind the curve from an R&D perspective with this and emissions. I loved my old Imprezas, especially my STi which was frankly a bonkers car. However, post 06 with the massive road tax and poor fuel efficiency does make you consider hatches.Its one thing ive always wondered about the scoobs and evo's - why they were never able to produce as good mpg figures as the fast hatches when they both give similar bhp figures
The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
Cactussed said:
Remember that the WRX's and EVOs have higher drivetrain losses thwough 4WD than your average hatch as well...
Not really an excuse for the emissions is it?!The Impreza became irrelevant in the UK as did the EVO. The gap has closed too much between these and hot hatches whilst the price has also risen, and furthermore we don't have the weather conditions substantiate an argument for them (and yes, I know, we have had our yearly few inches of snow, so we have all been looking on at knobs in RWD cars).
I love them, and would have another STi in a heartbeat if I had room for 3 cars. However, I am under no illusion as to why they are no longer officially imported into the UK by Subaru.
paulmoonraker said:
They were just a bit behind the curve from an R&D perspective with this and emissions. I loved my old Imprezas, especially my STi which was frankly a bonkers car. However, post 06 with the massive road tax and poor fuel efficiency does make you consider hatches.
The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
I guess the evo/scoob block will handle tuning better than the hot hatches of new - made a bit more agricuturally..The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
Oooh, i do like your current ride.. Still the scoob would hand it to it on a b road?!
Yeah i'd have another evo, a 9 this time i reckon. But 50 miles a day would suck @ 18mpg avg !
Edited by ge0rge on Monday 21st January 19:49
ge0rge said:
paulmoonraker said:
They were just a bit behind the curve from an R&D perspective with this and emissions. I loved my old Imprezas, especially my STi which was frankly a bonkers car. However, post 06 with the massive road tax and poor fuel efficiency does make you consider hatches.
The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
I guess the evo/scoob block will handle tuning better than the hot hatches of new - made a bit more agricuturally..The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
Oooh, i do like your current ride.. Still the scoob would hand it to it on a b road?!
Yeah i'd have another evo, a 9 this time i reckon. But 50 miles a day would suck @ 18mpg avg !
Edited by ge0rge on Monday 21st January 19:49
Cheers
My new M3 is mental and brutally fast. However, you're probably right in that a scooby or Evo would take it on the back roads. The M3 is a heavy car and it feels it (especially compared to the Cayman I had before that). Having said that, I am yet to take it for a proper drive given the weather (I only got it last week). paulmoonraker said:
ge0rge said:
paulmoonraker said:
They were just a bit behind the curve from an R&D perspective with this and emissions. I loved my old Imprezas, especially my STi which was frankly a bonkers car. However, post 06 with the massive road tax and poor fuel efficiency does make you consider hatches.
The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
I guess the evo/scoob block will handle tuning better than the hot hatches of new - made a bit more agricuturally..The die-hards will talk about handling, snow and good knows what else - but really, do we exploit that handling and capabilities on the public roads? Do a track day or two in your Scooby and you will soon answer that for yourself
having said all that, I look at this with a sense of envy, given my new ride is returning about 11MPG round town
Oooh, i do like your current ride.. Still the scoob would hand it to it on a b road?!
Yeah i'd have another evo, a 9 this time i reckon. But 50 miles a day would suck @ 18mpg avg !
Edited by ge0rge on Monday 21st January 19:49
Cheers
My new M3 is mental and brutally fast. However, you're probably right in that a scooby or Evo would take it on the back roads. The M3 is a heavy car and it feels it (especially compared to the Cayman I had before that). Having said that, I am yet to take it for a proper drive given the weather (I only got it last week). What Cayman did you have, a r or a s? Yeah take care then, esp in this weather !!
.ge0rge said:
Meh, even though i've spoke about the way they've made the fwd hot hatches perform, id still rather have it going through 4 wheels..
What Cayman did you have, a r or a s? Yeah take care then, esp in this weather !!.
An S. Great car but very clinical and lacked a bit of a personality. However, I never tracked it so never really found its limits.What Cayman did you have, a r or a s? Yeah take care then, esp in this weather !!
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