Automatic Subaru - good gearboxes? (any issues??)

Automatic Subaru - good gearboxes? (any issues??)

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bqf

2,261 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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I have an auto Subaru Legacy on 88,000 miles. No problems whatsoever. Check that the 'power' and 'hold' buttons illuminate in the dash though - they are electrical 'programme amendments' to the gearbox - one for power, one for icy conditions - being electrical these can fail and it's not a simple fix I don't think. (not all auots have these so if it doesn't, ignore me)

stain

1,052 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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I've had major issues on a 96 Legacy auto where the front diff leaked into the gearbox and fooked it. The replacement gearbox was also not right so I got rid.

GravelBen

15,841 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Mid 90s they weren't great and had a reputation for wearing out around the 100-115k mile mark but an '03 should be fine. I'd still go for a manual instead but I just don't like autos! hehe

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 22 February 08:50

stain

1,052 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Sorry I should've been clearer. This was a used car from a main dealer when it was a couple of years old. It only had 66k miles at the time.

stain

1,052 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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One other thing I have always found with the auto versions is that they really blunt the performance, even the spec B. no low range either if that's important to you.

bqf

2,261 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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This is an 03 one - a 96 one would have reasonable wear and tear anyway?

On the Legacy- how old is it?
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My legacy (outback) is a 2002 3.0 B6

bqf

2,261 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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hora said:
Whereabouts in the dash are these symbols located (so I can look out for them)
Top of the dash over the speedo on mine.

Vixpy1

42,656 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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We have a 54 plate 2.5 Auto legacy, the 4 speed auto box is rather basic by modern standards, but works well and is reliable.

The 5 speed fitted to the 3.0 is a much better box.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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hora said:
stain said:
One other thing I have always found with the auto versions is that they really blunt the performance, even the spec B. no low range either if that's important to you.
The 2.0 N/A isn't a performance car either. I'll have a spin first. If it feels peppy enough I'll take it if its sluggish/annoying I'll walk
Assuming you mean the 138 not the 150-160bhp 2.0 N/A, then is not at all peppy. It's not even a nice motor TBH. They are very very slow cars so I would go for a manual if the auto dulls the performance as much as claimed.

GravelBen

15,841 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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hora said:
It actually felt nippier than its weight (1800kg) + figures suggest.
Where does that 1800kg come from? Official kerb weight figure is sub-1500.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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GravelBen said:
hora said:
It actually felt nippier than its weight (1800kg) + figures suggest.
Where does that 1800kg come from? Official kerb weight figure is sub-1500.
Perhaps Hora was one of the stars of last nights 'Big Body Squad'?

Watchman

6,391 posts

251 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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The 4-speed one is OK but feels old compared to modern boxes from BMW and Mercedes. My mid-1990s one was still going strong at 130K miles although it was only mated to a natasp 2-litre engine.

The 5-speed one is very good - still not in the league of the Germans in terms of smooth delivery though. It contains the centre diff and the front diff, and can apportion up to 55% of the torque to the rear wheels. It has common fluid for itself, the two diffs, and the torque converter (so one fluid change). I'm told this box is strong but the fact that Subaru chose not to implement it with the diesel engine suggests it's not that strong. The 3-litre engine can push out 220lbft whereas the diesel can manage 250lbft. Perhaps the intention was to state how well it wears. Mine's at 105K miles at the mo and seems happy enough.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

162 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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I have a 2.5 Legacy with the 4 spd auto box. The 2.0 was a bit slow, but the 2.5 is fine (year 2001 Legacy). The box itself is good at what it does, despite being quite old now.

But there are ways to make the box work better. Firstly, it wants to get into 4th as soon as possible, fine for motorways etc, but around town it's reluctant to drop into 2nd quick enough. If you put it in D3, it won't change into 4th so is much more responsive, and around town makes no difference whatsoever to mpg.

The Power/Hold buttun is useful in Power mode for holding the gear for a bit longer at mid throttle, again useful around town. I read up a lot on the box and tried different things and found it much better than just shoving it in D and driving it. I'd definately have one again. Haven't tried the later 5spd auto so can't comment on that.