Bugeye with Decat MOT problems!

Bugeye with Decat MOT problems!

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pidsy

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8,198 posts

164 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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my bug is in for its MOT and has failed its emissions test badly. anyone got any ideas?

passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.

help would be appreciated.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

170 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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Fit a cat. You may be okay with just the last one under the car. I have one in the garage but no idea where you are.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

233 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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pidsy said:
my bug is in for its MOT and has failed its emissions test badly. anyone got any ideas?

passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.

help would be appreciated.
Is your bugeye fully decat??

If it is you will need to go to a friendly MOT station.

If it isn't fully decat and you still have all 3 cats in place you will need either to change the Lambda sensor or MAF sensor. Your car should still get through with one cat in place therefore it's unlikely that all 3 cats are faulty. I suspect a sensor issue. At the outset it could even be a MAP sensor or injector problem. If it's running rich during idle/closed loop running come MOT time it won't get through.

More accurate to tell what the problem is hooking up either a main dealers SSM diagnostic kit or an independent subaru tuner's laptop.

myles1972

9,557 posts

178 months

Friday 27th January 2012
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Where are you Pidsy? I have a wrx downpipe you can borrow for the MOT if you like.

pidsy

Original Poster:

8,198 posts

164 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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Thanks for the quick responses guys!

Had to bite the bullet in the end and bought a whole system off a bug at my local breakers.

Having a retest on monday so shouldnt have any problems.

Completely forgot that my fully de-catted system would cause issues. Sounds nice though.

Now off to spend the weekend being economical in a nice little smartcar!

Thanks again.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

170 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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The nuclear option.

BerksJack

1,155 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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pidsy said:
passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.
A decat wouldn't have got you through the emissions test last year bud as the rules haven't changed for them. Did you take it to a different garage this year?

Hope you get it sorted Monday!

BerksJack

1,155 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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pidsy said:
passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.
A decat wouldn't have got you through the emissions test last year bud as the rules haven't changed for them. Did you take it to a different garage this year?

Hope you get it sorted Monday!

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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pidsy said:
passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.
The emission rules haven't changed but as of Jan 1st it shouldn't pass with any of the cats removed.

Marf

22,907 posts

248 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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jagracer said:
pidsy said:
passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.
The emission rules haven't changed but as of Jan 1st it shouldn't pass with any of the cats removed.
Grace period till end of March I believe.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

170 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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jagracer said:
he emission rules haven't changed but as of Jan 1st it shouldn't pass with any of the cats removed.
So an MOT station will need to know the location of the cats on every car model? Do you have a link to this new legislation? I suspect it's more like a cat needs to be present....

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

170 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-r...

Towards the end. It seems if a car came wit a cat a cat needs to be present. But it seems open to interpretation as to whether it needs to be the original one. If it had to be the original, the this has just killed off all aftermarket full systems with sports cats...

pidsy

Original Poster:

8,198 posts

164 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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Different garage this year. Said they were friendly, but actually pretty useless.

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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Marf said:
Grace period till end of March I believe.
More like end April beginning of May for some of the new RfRs

Marf

22,907 posts

248 months

Saturday 28th January 2012
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Even better.

pidsy

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8,198 posts

164 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Down at my old garage now, waiting....

Just wandering around trying not to dribble on their 925bhp RB5.

Or the 956bhp GTO.

I love this place! Shame its so far away!

pidsy

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8,198 posts

164 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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All done. Got mot and zorst is all sorted.

Cheers guys.

edar

463 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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pidsy said:
my bug is in for its MOT and has failed its emissions test badly. anyone got any ideas?

passed last year no probs but apparently the rules have changed and it now wont pass and i'm stuffed.

help would be appreciated.
I've just had my blobeye MOT'd today. I've had the second cat removed and replaced with a
straight-through stainless steel system with japspeed rear silencer, and, also had it re-mapped. It's only got the up-pipe cat still on but passed the new emission test without any issues. The tester said any MOT as of January 2012 will be tested under the new emission reg's. He didn't seem to think any exhaust de-cat mods would be an issue, but again, it all depends on what car you have. Typical. No clear rules by the Ministry, again.

filski666

3,847 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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How does that CAT rule work with imports?

My 1994 JDM Celica GTFOUR has a decat, and for the emissions test it only has to pass a non-cat emission test as they don't have the emissions data for it as it isn't a UK model....can they say it shoul dhave a CAT or can I argue they don't know that as it is an import??

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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filski666 said:
How does that CAT rule work with imports?

My 1994 JDM Celica GTFOUR has a decat, and for the emissions test it only has to pass a non-cat emission test as they don't have the emissions data for it as it isn't a UK model....can they say it shoul dhave a CAT or can I argue they don't know that as it is an import??
I think it depends on what the model report for this vehicle says. That's a document used by SVA testing firms involved in making sure newly imported cars adhere/comply to MOT regulations for use on UK roads.

Logic tells me that if it originally had a cat it should have a cat now for the MOT but if it's been tested under the pre-cat emissions ruling it would be reasonable to assume no cat is currently required!!

See what the model report says if you can get hold of one.