Why are football club owners so dodgy?

Why are football club owners so dodgy?

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Thankyou4calling

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10,786 posts

188 months

Friday 28th March
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It strikes me that running a football club seems to attract wrong uns.

There's a fit and proper person's test some seem to get past and later it's discovered the person was up to varying levels of mischief.

I'm not saying every club, or every owner but it does seem an inordinate amount fly close to the wire.

Is it football? Is it sport? Is it ? Well what is it?

TownIdiot

3,527 posts

14 months

Friday 28th March
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Relatively large amounts of money moving round a very lightly regulated environment.

Possibility of fame and glory.


Dingu

4,885 posts

45 months

Friday 28th March
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What about it attracts right ones? It’s a crap thing to do, you’ll always end up unpopular and you will almost certainly lose money, unless right at the top end.

BoRED S2upid

20,711 posts

255 months

Friday 28th March
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I wouldn’t say Wrexhams owners are dodgy although he has been in some dodgy films in his time.

nicanary

10,611 posts

161 months

Friday 28th March
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Delia Smith is a saint. How very very dare you......

drdel

460 posts

143 months

Friday 28th March
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Any (well most I'd say) business that uses cash has a big temptation because the opportunity for creative accounting is in the mindset.

mikef

5,627 posts

266 months

Saturday 29th March
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I get the impression that Tony Bloom, majority owner of Brighton, is not so much dodgy as a very shrewd businessman

He's made much of his money out of gaming and horse racing, which might in itself be viewed as dodgy, but he's clearly been putting into the club rather than taking out

Maybe he's the exception ?

jazzybees

1,042 posts

137 months

Saturday 29th March
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YES DODGY , SAME AS PEOPLE WHO MAKE BETS, AND DONT PAY UP, WHEN THEY LOSE THE BET.

aeropilot

38,328 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th March
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mikef said:
I get the impression that Tony Bloom, majority owner of Brighton, is not so much dodgy as a very shrewd businessman

He's made much of his money out of gaming and horse racing, which might in itself be viewed as dodgy, but he's clearly been putting into the club rather than taking out

Maybe he's the exception ?
No, as similar to Mathew Benham's ownership of Brentford as well.

Both also happen to be lifelong fans of their respective clubs, which I think is the big difference, and can be seen in the way both clubs are run.


OldPal

166 posts

155 months

Saturday 29th March
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Relatively easy access to huge amounts of finance, large assets to strip, loyal fan bases to make sure it doesn’t go out of business.

Some of the stuff that went on at rangers was unbelievable back in 2012-2015. Agreeing deals to sell future season ticket revenue for cash injections now which was then embezzled away in overly lucrative contracts to the then owners at the time. Giving Mike Ashley the rights to the club shirt and rangers were only making something like 8p in every £1 of club merchandise.

Gargamel

15,544 posts

276 months

Sunday 30th March
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Lots of clubs syndicate future ticket sales as the asset against which they borrow.

Rangers case was special.

Agree through over the years Football club owners have been involved in a disproportionate numbers of financial scandals.

I think there is something about owning a club that gives undue prestige to people

TwigtheWonderkid

46,279 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd April
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mikef said:
I get the impression that Tony Bloom, majority owner of Brighton, is not so much dodgy as a very shrewd businessman

He's made much of his money out of gaming and horse racing, which might in itself be viewed as dodgy, but he's clearly been putting into the club rather than taking out

Maybe he's the exception ?
He did to get them where they are now, but the club is now run very profitably. Mainly due to the stupidity of my club's owners, who seem to want to just have a constant stream of millions moving from Chelsea to Brighton.

I think BHA have about £400m cash in the bank, and he now has an asset worth many multiples of what he paid and put in. At some point he'll sell, and realise his reward.

Good for him I say. He's identified Chelsea is run by halfwits, and has taken full advantage. That's shrewd business.

bristolracer

5,751 posts

164 months

Wednesday 2nd April
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I remember an interview with Alan Sugar talking about his Tottenham years.
He walked into El Tels office and saw the safe open with 40 odd grand in it.
Sugar being the business man wanted to know why all that cash wasn’t banked,clearing overdrafts or paying overheads.
Terry apparently had no answer

It’s not just the owners, plenty of grease applied to the wheels all the way down.

Edited by bristolracer on Wednesday 2nd April 20:18

Antony Moxey

9,735 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd April
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Thankyou4calling said:
It strikes me that running a football club seems to attract wrong uns.

There's a fit and proper person's test some seem to get past and later it's discovered the person was up to varying levels of mischief.

I'm not saying every club, or every owner but it does seem an inordinate amount fly close to the wire.

Is it football? Is it sport? Is it ? Well what is it?
My club was one of them, thankfully that was over 20 years ago and is unlikely to happen again.

LotusOmega375D

8,732 posts

168 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Don’t forget the top shelf pornographers at West Ham, previously Birmingham City.