Managerial merry go round

Managerial merry go round

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LF5335

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7,443 posts

50 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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With the news that Pochettino has left Chelsea that means there are quite a few managers without jobs now and quite a few top(ish) roles available, or likely to be available in the coming weeks & months.

Does anyone fancy making some wild guesses / inspired selections as to where this lot could end up. I’ve thrown in a couple of wildcards as well, just to stir things up. Just a bit of fun to maybe keep us going for the next three weeks until the Euros start and everyone starts laying into Southgate

Mourinho
Pochettino
De Zerbi
Klopp
Tuchel
Southgate - is his time at England up? Is he any good really?
Amorim - think he’s said he’s staying put although money talks
Ten Hag - likely to be sacked after the weekend
Howe - is he in danger at Newcastle?
McKenna - will he leave Ipswich? Is it too big a risk as he’s so inexperienced?
Xavi Hernandez - he still seems to be trying to get out of Barcelona

Chelsea
Brighton
Manchester United - possibly
Newcastle United - will they sack Howe?
Bayern
Barcelona - see above
West Ham - added as per Ascayman’s comment below.
Plus the Real job is likely to be available after next season, possibly even this close season if Ancelotti walks away.

I’ve probably missed a few teams & managers off the list.


Edited by LF5335 on Wednesday 22 May 12:07

MCBrowncoat

1,010 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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So your managerial merry go round has five managers out of work and six that are still in jobs?

LF5335

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7,443 posts

50 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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MCBrowncoat said:
So your managerial merry go round has five managers out of work and six that are still in jobs?
It’s all about rumours and I did say I’ve thrown some wildcards in to stir things up.

MCBrowncoat

1,010 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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LF5335 said:
MCBrowncoat said:
So your managerial merry go round has five managers out of work and six that are still in jobs?
It’s all about rumours and I did say I’ve thrown some wildcards in to stir things up.
Yeah, Howe purely to stir st, nice one

fourstardan

4,984 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Management in football just isn't the same anymore. Clubs are now run by idiots who employ more idiots.

Alonso not losing a game all season with a team who nearly got relegated the year before provides evidence to suggest this.

Maybe the new norm is short term only?


LF5335

Original Poster:

7,443 posts

50 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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MCBrowncoat said:
LF5335 said:
MCBrowncoat said:
So your managerial merry go round has five managers out of work and six that are still in jobs?
It’s all about rumours and I did say I’ve thrown some wildcards in to stir things up.
Yeah, Howe purely to stir st, nice one
Boohoo. It’s a bit of fun.

ChocolateFrog

28,559 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I think Barca will wave a huge numbers under Klopps nose. I think he'll take atleast a year out though.

Has ETH really underperformed that badly? Utd have an average team despite the astronomical wages and there's clearly allsorts of ste going on behind the scenes.

Chelsea are a basket case, I hope it goes spectacularly wrong for them again.

Poch to Bayern and Tuchel back to Chelsea maybe?

Southgate to Utd would make my day biglaugh

Wonder how long Slot will get if things start badly. I'd hope he gets a decent run but if we're out of the CL before the year is out and mid table then people are going to get jittery.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Wednesday 22 May 08:57

ChocolateFrog

28,559 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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MCBrowncoat said:
Yeah, Howe purely to stir st, nice one
Still feel he's the right man for that job. They've had horrendous injuries but should be back fighting for a CL place next season.

MCBrowncoat

1,010 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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ChocolateFrog said:
MCBrowncoat said:
Yeah, Howe purely to stir st, nice one
Still feel he's the right man for that job. They've had horrendous injuries but should be back fighting for a CL place next season.
Exactly, plus why not just get rid of him (by mutual agreement of course) now? Seasons done, just the carbon unfriendly's in Aus being played.

brownspeed

844 posts

138 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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fourstardan said:
Management in football just isn't the same anymore. Clubs are now run by idiots who employ more idiots.
Alonso not losing a game all season with a team who nearly got relegated the year before provides evidence to suggest this.
Maybe the new norm is short term only?
exactly this! Manchester city were the pioneers of the short term manager back in the day- installing a revolving door on the office and chopping managers on a whim with spectacularly bad results.
Poch at Chelsea (finally getting some cohesion-despite being the owners personal fantasy team) and Alonso at Leverkusen (dreadful start- brilliant 2nd season) are the polar opposites of the philosophy and the results speak for themselves.

LF5335

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7,443 posts

50 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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brownspeed said:
exactly this! Manchester city were the pioneers of the short term manager back in the day- installing a revolving door on the office and chopping managers on a whim with spectacularly bad results.
Poch at Chelsea (finally getting some cohesion-despite being the owners personal fantasy team) and Alonso at Leverkusen (dreadful start- brilliant 2nd season) are the polar opposites of the philosophy and the results speak for themselves.
Can’t see how Alonso’s first season was horrible. He came in after 8 matches with them second from bottom. He took them to a 6th place finish in his 26 matches in charge.

ChocolateFrog

28,559 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Alonso will be the hottest property in management if he has another good season next year, particularly in the CL.

He'll replace in Ancelotti in time.

sugerbear

4,512 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Doesn't really matter as none of the current managers are outperforming their wage bill.

The entire premiership is basically just a product of the wage bill (with the exception of Manchester United who are spectacular in underperforming).

If you want to win the premiership you need to pay top money and outspend the opposition.

If Poch managed Man City they would be top, if Ang Managed Man City they would be top. If Ten Haag managed Man city they would be top half of the table. That is pretty much it.



Ascayman

12,920 posts

223 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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West Ham job is up for grabs too, i dont think they've officially appointed J-Lo as yet have they?

LF5335

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7,443 posts

50 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Ascayman said:
West Ham job is up for grabs too, i dont think they've officially appointed J-Lo as yet have they?
Good call, added to the list at the top. I’m not putting Moyes in the manager list though.

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Timbo_S2

571 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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LF5335 said:
McKenna - will he leave Ipswich? Is it too big a risk as he’s so inexperienced?
Really interested to see him take a step up - he's done great things this season.

dirty boy

14,745 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Timbo_S2 said:
LF5335 said:
McKenna - will he leave Ipswich? Is it too big a risk as he’s so inexperienced?
Really interested to see him take a step up - he's done great things this season.
Would like him to step up with Ipswich lol!

Geuinely think we could avoid relegation with him (not easy, but it would be possible)

Without him, it's a cast iron certainty.

Always thought Brighton would be the ones to get him, they're still in the running, but not clear cut.

Don't think he'd take the Chelsea gig, as mad as that sounds to non-Ipswich people, but he's pretty grounded, very methodical and believes in stability and building things. Chelsea doesn't look like that (at the moment). Plus he's the manager at Ipswich which was what he wanted too, not just a coach.

He's a life long United fan, so if, as many expect, ETH goes after the weekend and that job comes up, he'll most certainly fancy it, whether United take that risk remains to be seen, but Arteta, Pep, all went from assistants to top jobs, McKenna arguably better qualified than those two.


Challo

10,823 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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dirty boy said:
Timbo_S2 said:
LF5335 said:
McKenna - will he leave Ipswich? Is it too big a risk as he’s so inexperienced?
Really interested to see him take a step up - he's done great things this season.
Would like him to step up with Ipswich lol!

Geuinely think we could avoid relegation with him (not easy, but it would be possible)

Without him, it's a cast iron certainty.

Always thought Brighton would be the ones to get him, they're still in the running, but not clear cut.

Don't think he'd take the Chelsea gig, as mad as that sounds to non-Ipswich people, but he's pretty grounded, very methodical and believes in stability and building things. Chelsea doesn't look like that (at the moment). Plus he's the manager at Ipswich which was what he wanted too, not just a coach.

He's a life long United fan, so if, as many expect, ETH goes after the weekend and that job comes up, he'll most certainly fancy it, whether United take that risk remains to be seen, but Arteta, Pep, all went from assistants to top jobs, McKenna arguably better qualified than those two.
I would love to see McKenna succeed with Ipswich and have a good season the prem with them next year. No doubt he is liked by clubs, but only in his first year as a manager. Make the jump to early and could screw him over for years to come. He needs to learn his trade, and Ipswich seem a club he can really develop at.

It wasn't long ago he was being hounded out of United by some fans because they felt he was a rubbish coach, and was the reason for Ole's failure.


Venisonpie

3,631 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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dirty boy said:
Would like him to step up with Ipswich lol!

Geuinely think we could avoid relegation with him (not easy, but it would be possible)

Without him, it's a cast iron certainty.

Always thought Brighton would be the ones to get him, they're still in the running, but not clear cut.

Don't think he'd take the Chelsea gig, as mad as that sounds to non-Ipswich people, but he's pretty grounded, very methodical and believes in stability and building things. Chelsea doesn't look like that (at the moment). Plus he's the manager at Ipswich which was what he wanted too, not just a coach.

He's a life long United fan, so if, as many expect, ETH goes after the weekend and that job comes up, he'll most certainly fancy it, whether United take that risk remains to be seen, but Arteta, Pep, all went from assistants to top jobs, McKenna arguably better qualified than those two.
I think he'll stay at Ipswich (watch that call go spectacularly wrong) as the options are either chaotic big clubs or smaller ones that ultimately won't offer more medium term potential than Ipswich but carry a load of risk.
He also has a lot of influence and little interference where he is which will be very liberating. The speculation won't harm his remuneration negotiations though.

lepill

75 posts

106 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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The Juve job is probably up for grabs too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgg...

and surely Potter is due a comeback ?

Edited by lepill on Wednesday 22 May 16:18