Football feels dead

[Slow]

At what point do they give up on this Var and not putting obvious flags up for offsides?

Ruining the game, debating watching other lower leagues without this crap now.

[coppernorks]

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

VAR is awful, no crowd is awful. Very hard to stay enthusiastic about football at the moment.

[darren f]

Isn’t the cat out of the bag as regards VAR? I can’t see them ever abandoning it now after playing so heavily on the ‘we have to be using technology to make it fairer for everybody’ aspect. If they don’t abandon it, it does need a complete overhaul. ‘Clear and obvious error’ is a concept that seems to have been forgotten, it should be that the onus fully remains on the officials to make correct on field decisions, if VAR cannot show the decision is obviously incorrect after 2 replays, the decision stands.

[wazztie16]

darren f said:

Isn’t the cat out of the bag as regards VAR? I can’t see them ever abandoning it now after playing so heavily on the ‘we have to be using technology to make it fairer for everybody’ aspect. If they don’t abandon it, it does need a complete overhaul. ‘Clear and obvious error’ is a concept that seems to have been forgotten, it should be that the onus fully remains on the officials to make correct on field decisions, if VAR cannot show the decision is obviously incorrect after 2 replays, the decision stands.

I spoke to a current Premier League referee earlier this year or end of last year at a meeting, and he said VAR is here to stay due to the money invested in it.

Which is not what I wanted to hear.

[SpeckledJim]

VAR is being drastically over-used.

The offside flag rule is just nuts. You don’t know whether you’re watching part of the actual match or not. Don’t know whether to emotionally invest in an attack or not because you feel daft if 20 seconds later it turns out it was all void. The players are bamboozled. Very strange.

[Ascayman]

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

I agree. This isn't football.

[TCEvo]

Ascayman said:

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

I agree. This isn't football.

Or any sport. It's all st without fans.

[Terminator X]

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

Same here the game just lacks that certain something now with no crowd. O/T but F1 is the same, no joy to be had now.

TX.

[Ascayman]

TCEvo said:

Ascayman said:

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

I agree. This isn't football.

Or any sport. It's all st without fans.

Agreed. None of it feels right.

[Slow]

Terminator X said:

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

Same here the game just lacks that certain something now with no crowd. O/T but F1 is the same, no joy to be had now.

TX.

BTCC is still good with no crowd!

[Terminator X]

SpeckledJim said:

VAR is being drastically over-used.

The offside flag rule is just nuts. You don’t know whether you’re watching part of the actual match or not. Don’t know whether to emotionally invest in an attack or not because you feel daft if 20 seconds later it turns out it was all void. The players are bamboozled. Very strange.

They should just change it to clear daylight between attacker and defender. If effectively level then give advantage to attacker.

TX.

[Blib]

I wrote this yesterday, on the Spurs thread.

Blib said:

Ok. I'll be deliberately contentious.

I dont care about this season whatsoever. The end of last season proved one thing for me.

Without fans at the grounds football is so diminished as to become nigh on irrelevant. Watching games was so painful that in the end I didnt bother. I've not watched anything this season and frankly it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I've been following Spurs for over half a century. I had a season ticket for many years.

But, I just don't care one jot about season 20-21.

Carry on.

[650spider]

Ascayman said:

TCEvo said:

Ascayman said:

coppernorks said:

I can suffer VAR, it's the lack of a crowd that's the swollen, smelly, dead pachyderm in the room.

I agree. This isn't football.

Or any sport. It's all st without fans.

Agreed. None of it feels right.

It is very strange; if you asked me a year ago would I still watch sport if there were no crowds, I would of said yes as I would not think it would affect my viewing in any way, shape or form.

Now; i just cannot get into a single game; it seems like a closed door pointless exhibition match, and likewise with F1 etc.

Very hard to explain why it has had that effect.

[silverfoxcc]

F1 is just another racde. Boring as Feck Bive me spmething where the cars ae not controilled by Radar and there is the exitement of close racing Really into Bikes now Those guys have balls of steel

[48k]

BTCC and F1 have been brilliant the last couple of races.

[chow pan toon]

Motorsport is hardly the same though is it? In the good old days you couldn't even hear the crowd in F1. Football is very different and far worse without it.

[SpeckledJim]

It'll be interesting the stats to see if the reduced 'home ground effect' has any effect on referees.

[franki68]

Basically the powers that be want football to be about lots of goals.There has been a natural evolution of the game as players got fitter and pitches better,balls lighter etc that swung the game massively towards attack ,they then added rules to make it even more slanted to score goals ,it seems to me the product is being marketed towards the us market and the game is becoming more and more like basketball .
In ten years we will be seeing games where the score is 10-8
Watching the games at weekend ,goals are too easy to score now ,the preciousness of a goal is gone .

[911gone]

VAR is being over-used in my opinion. It should be there to catch obvious mistakes only (think Lampard goal vs Germany, or Henri handball vs Rep of Ireland). Spending 5 minutes to figure out whether the pimple on the attackers nose is ahead of the defenders toe nail is ludicrous! And the not flagging for offside is stupid, if it's offside put your flag up!

The handball business has become a farce too. Not that long ago, handball usually meant someone (other than the GK) was doing his best superman impression to stop the ball going in the net with his hands. Nowadays it can be any contact with the hands, we can't help having arms and hands can we? All this bks about arms in a natural position, since when has it been natural to have both arms tucked behind you whilst running and taking part in sport?!