Ian Wright says criticism of Raheem Sterling is racist
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45177178
Really?
You now can't criticise Sterlings inability to cross a ball and worsening efforts to pass a man because it is 'racist'?
Really?
You now can't criticise Sterlings inability to cross a ball and worsening efforts to pass a man because it is 'racist'?
Why was he criticised for buying clothes at Primark? If he bought clothes in Harrods, they'd say he was being flash. If he buys at Primark, he's stingy? Can't win.
And he bought his mum a house. How can anyone knock that?
I don't know if it's racism, but it's definitely pathetic.
But he's a rubbish finisher, and deserves to be criticised for that, be he black or white or striped like a zebra.
And he bought his mum a house. How can anyone knock that?
I don't know if it's racism, but it's definitely pathetic.
But he's a rubbish finisher, and deserves to be criticised for that, be he black or white or striped like a zebra.
DMN said:
I must admit when I read the Ian Wright article, I was thinking 'b
ks'. I felt people are on his back because he's frustrated them on the pitch. Reading that link is an eye opener though. Wasn't really aware of all that disgusting crap. Still not sure it's anthing to do with race though. It's not like he's the only high profile black footballer. Gad-Westy said:
DMN said:
I must admit when I read the Ian Wright article, I was thinking 'bks'. I felt people are on his back because he's frustrated them on the pitch. Reading that link is an eye opener though. Wasn't really aware of all that disgusting crap. Still not sure it's anthing to do with race though. It's not like he's the only high profile black footballer. Gad-Westy said:
DMN said:
I must admit when I read the Ian Wright article, I was thinking 'bks'. I felt people are on his back because he's frustrated them on the pitch. Reading that link is an eye opener though. Wasn't really aware of all that disgusting crap. Still not sure it's anthing to do with race though. It's not like he's the only high profile black footballer. t, but those headlines are awful. Other footballers have had this treatment... doesn’t make it right
OO Beckton said:
More race-baiting identity politics by fake news BBC, taking one silly throwaway comment by Wright, and making it into a front page story? BBC obsessed by race and gender?
The effect of this terrible journalism is that non-racists are scared off criticising any bad football by black players, whilst racists have been given the idea of targeting Sterling because he’s black?
Agreed. When will be people realise all this race baiting nonsense is counterproductive when trying to tackle racism? The effect of this terrible journalism is that non-racists are scared off criticising any bad football by black players, whilst racists have been given the idea of targeting Sterling because he’s black?
Not sure the media target him because of his race however the coverage he gets is way ott - some of the headlines are beyond belief, he’s critisised for the most BS reasons. “Sterling flies economy class”; “Sterling buys his mum a fancy sink”. WTF!
“England and Manchester City forward Raheem Sterling has accused some sections of the media of helping to “fuel racism” with their portrayal of young black footballers after he was the victim of alleged racist abuse during City’s 2-0 defeat at Chelsea.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-so...
“England and Manchester City forward Raheem Sterling has accused some sections of the media of helping to “fuel racism” with their portrayal of young black footballers after he was the victim of alleged racist abuse during City’s 2-0 defeat at Chelsea.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-so...
Hmmmm?
Racism in football you say? It's there, no doubt about it, and quite openly too. I'm not sure how "racist" the criticism of Raheem Sterling is because I don't bother with reading a lot of the back pages in detail,not beyond match reports anyhow, and I'm certainly not mixing on social media with those that spout ignorant crap.
But I have watched quite a few games in Shed Upper, and Shed Lower at Stamford Bridge, and if you were to compare it unfavourably with Mos Eisley space port you'd be doing it too great a service. It truly is a "wretched hive of scum and villainy", and racism is quite openly at home there among the fat Mockneys with body odour issues. Oops! Am I being "working class football fan-ist" now? I don't really care. What is truly bizarre is the fact that there are still racists bothering to go to football matches when, at the highest level of the game, and even down into non-league football, there are some extremely talented non-white players and in many cases they form a much larger proportion of their team's squad than they do as a proportion of the wider population. Surely the bigots should all be off watching field Hockey or Polo, where the representation of non-white faces is far lower as a proportion of participants? Most ridiculous of all, I find, is the racist abuse of black players on the opposing team when c.50% of your own team is the same colour. It's utterly bonkers, really.
Racism in football you say? It's there, no doubt about it, and quite openly too. I'm not sure how "racist" the criticism of Raheem Sterling is because I don't bother with reading a lot of the back pages in detail,not beyond match reports anyhow, and I'm certainly not mixing on social media with those that spout ignorant crap.
But I have watched quite a few games in Shed Upper, and Shed Lower at Stamford Bridge, and if you were to compare it unfavourably with Mos Eisley space port you'd be doing it too great a service. It truly is a "wretched hive of scum and villainy", and racism is quite openly at home there among the fat Mockneys with body odour issues. Oops! Am I being "working class football fan-ist" now? I don't really care. What is truly bizarre is the fact that there are still racists bothering to go to football matches when, at the highest level of the game, and even down into non-league football, there are some extremely talented non-white players and in many cases they form a much larger proportion of their team's squad than they do as a proportion of the wider population. Surely the bigots should all be off watching field Hockey or Polo, where the representation of non-white faces is far lower as a proportion of participants? Most ridiculous of all, I find, is the racist abuse of black players on the opposing team when c.50% of your own team is the same colour. It's utterly bonkers, really.
Raheem Sterling's statement yesterday had a huge dig at the journalists. I then go on to twitter to see most of the football journalist virtue signalling over the statement and jumping on the bandwagon saying Sterling is correct. So which ones are guilty of this considering most of them are trying to distance themselves from being guilty of it?
Alpinestars said:
Chelsea has always been the worst place to go and watch football in London. Attracts more than its fair share of scum fans.
That was definitely true in the 70s and 80s. Not so much now though. I go to most home games and I haven't heard any racist abuse for years. Of course we have some morons, like any other club. Not sure we have a higher proportion than others.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alpinestars said:
Chelsea has always been the worst place to go and watch football in London. Attracts more than its fair share of scum fans.
That was definitely true in the 70s and 80s. Not so much now though. I go to most home games and I haven't heard any racist abuse for years. Of course we have some morons, like any other club. Not sure we have a higher proportion than others.
Racism generally is much better than the 80s, so I’d expect even Chelsea to have improved.
Alpinestars said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alpinestars said:
Chelsea has always been the worst place to go and watch football in London. Attracts more than its fair share of scum fans.
That was definitely true in the 70s and 80s. Not so much now though. I go to most home games and I haven't heard any racist abuse for years. Of course we have some morons, like any other club. Not sure we have a higher proportion than others.
Racism generally is much better than the 80s, so I’d expect even Chelsea to have improved.
This is worth a watch if you didn't see it earlier.
https://youtu.be/YF3jTYjXEe8
wjb said:
It's very quiet on PH about this topic, is there another thread on it that I've missed?
Heard some excellent words on this today from Adrian Durham from Talksport and now Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville on sky.
The MNF piece just popped up on my YouTube, very enlightening. That Twitter thread is fHeard some excellent words on this today from Adrian Durham from Talksport and now Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville on sky.
king horrific though, no idea the red tops went after him so much. I read a fantastic piece by him a couple of months back, it's a really great read and gives a great insight into his youth and the sacrifices his mum made for him.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/r...
snake_oil said:
wjb said:
It's very quiet on PH about this topic, is there another thread on it that I've missed?
Heard some excellent words on this today from Adrian Durham from Talksport and now Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville on sky.
The MNF piece just popped up on my YouTube, very enlightening. That Twitter thread is fHeard some excellent words on this today from Adrian Durham from Talksport and now Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville on sky.
king horrific though, no idea the red tops went after him so much. I read a fantastic piece by him a couple of months back, it's a really great read and gives a great insight into his youth and the sacrifices his mum made for him.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/r...
Personally i've never got why so many people dislike Raheem. Just a working class kid that has done very well for himself.
wjb said:
Missing the point a bit guys, it's not the racist fans that was being discussed tonight.
This is worth a watch if you didn't see it earlier.
https://youtu.be/YF3jTYjXEe8
It’s not missing the point at all. It’s about racism directed towards Sterling. Of course the press has a role to play in it, and it should be discussed as an issue. But these things should not manifest themselves in the way they did. My observation is that I see Chelsea, rightly or wrongly, as a problem. And there’s a tangible difference in the “athmosphere” at Stamford Bridge, versus anywhere else in London. They have been involved in a number of high profile incidents, including with their players. That’s not to say it doesn’t exist at other clubs, but I can hand on heart say I’ve never heard anything like that low life scum was shouting at Sterling from a United fan. Not because we don’t have racist fans, but because I think they’d get called out, and we know that. This is worth a watch if you didn't see it earlier.
https://youtu.be/YF3jTYjXEe8
Neville started touching on it, there’s a problem in society that’s simmering, and in some cases boiling over, with anger being vented at people who are different. I think some people feel more empowered to be explicitly racist at the moment - where they’ve probably hidden those views in the past. It’s become more acceptable to be explicitly racist over the last couple of years, no doubt linked to political events, and media reporting. It’s good that it’s being discussed, and John Barnes is also worth listening to.
https://youtu.be/b3oojs_JmKw
Chelsea and West Ham have always had an undercurrent at their clubs but they are by no means the only ones, look at that idiot at spurs the other other week.. games v chelsea and west ham are the only games i wont take my kids to though both still even in this age continue the antisemitic chanting.
I do think its something more sinister though and casual racism is creeping back into society, look at these two pretty much identical stories from the same paper, only difference i can see is one guy is black one is a white and look at how different the article is:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253633/M...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...
I have also seen it more and more in day to day life, Just last week i was queuing for a tube and a black lady was blocking the door a big white guy barged her out the way and then as the doors were closing spat right in her face, it was unbelievable! in 20 years of commuting i ave never seen that.
Then go and look in NPE on here..
I do think its something more sinister though and casual racism is creeping back into society, look at these two pretty much identical stories from the same paper, only difference i can see is one guy is black one is a white and look at how different the article is:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253633/M...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...
I have also seen it more and more in day to day life, Just last week i was queuing for a tube and a black lady was blocking the door a big white guy barged her out the way and then as the doors were closing spat right in her face, it was unbelievable! in 20 years of commuting i ave never seen that.
Then go and look in NPE on here..
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