The official Pistonheads 1960/70's football thread.
Discussion
Thought I would start a brand new thread for PH'ers of a "certain age" , who followed or still look back fondly at footie in the golden era before the big money men and Sky TV moved in.
The thread is specifically intended for this era, not later please....
My team is/was Manchester City, but there were some great characters/players back then...
Just a few off the top of my head:-
Denis Law, George Best, Francis Lee, Mike Summerbee, Norman (bite 'yer legs) Hunter, Allan Clarke, Malcolm M'cDonald, Terry Cooper, Tommy (Anfield Iron) Smith, Ron (Chopper) Harris, Kevin Keegan, Mick Channon, Jimmy Greaves, Trevor Francis, Charlie George, Billy Bremner, Peter Shilton, Colin Bell, Duncan McKenzie, Ian St John, Peter (The cat) Bonetti etc, etc,
So who were your favourites back in the good old days?
The thread is specifically intended for this era, not later please....
My team is/was Manchester City, but there were some great characters/players back then...
Just a few off the top of my head:-
Denis Law, George Best, Francis Lee, Mike Summerbee, Norman (bite 'yer legs) Hunter, Allan Clarke, Malcolm M'cDonald, Terry Cooper, Tommy (Anfield Iron) Smith, Ron (Chopper) Harris, Kevin Keegan, Mick Channon, Jimmy Greaves, Trevor Francis, Charlie George, Billy Bremner, Peter Shilton, Colin Bell, Duncan McKenzie, Ian St John, Peter (The cat) Bonetti etc, etc,
So who were your favourites back in the good old days?
I'm in
Jimmy Greaves was always my hero but i loved hot shot Peter Lorimer , big Pat "shovel hands" Jennings & local lad Alex stepney. (well he played for Tooting & Mitcham )
Bobby Moore, George Best, Frank Worthington , Stan Bowles, Rodney Marsh... the list is endless
Oh & of course Dickie Davies, Jimmy Hill & Brian Moore. ...The big match.
Jimmy Greaves was always my hero but i loved hot shot Peter Lorimer , big Pat "shovel hands" Jennings & local lad Alex stepney. (well he played for Tooting & Mitcham )
Bobby Moore, George Best, Frank Worthington , Stan Bowles, Rodney Marsh... the list is endless
Oh & of course Dickie Davies, Jimmy Hill & Brian Moore. ...The big match.
Edited by Black can man on Friday 13th October 05:50
Back in the day there was none of this palaver with mascots and coming onto the pitch for photo opportunities. Total bolleaux.
The 2 teams would come on for a kickabout, each taking an end for themselves. Frank Worthington, complete with Elvis ducktail, loved playing to the crowd. He would go to the opposition's end (the Barclay stand at my Carrow Road) and entertain them with tricks. Wonderfully skilled player, who seemed completely oblivious of his own genius. Makes you wonder what he could have achieved if someone had shown him the way.
Loved Martin Chivers - we called him the Jolly Green Giant. Nice man, no side to him. He would always run out of his way to retrieve the ball even if the opposition had been awarded the throw. Gentleman.
Norwich got Martin Peters from Spurs for £40k. This was the start of the £1m era, and we got him for £40k!! OK he was never the quickest, and his legs were starting to tire, but what quality. First home game and we were awarded a free kick at about 35 yards out - at the Barclay End we could see the whole thing from behind. He swerved the ball round the wall and there was a huge gasp from the crowd, It went into the side netting , but that's not the point. We'd never had a player before who could do that. Seriously. Talk about chuffed!
(Going back even further, my father-in-law played for City in the days when they used a real leather ball. They were playing West Ham on a soaked quagmire pitch and got awarded a penalty. Nobody wanted to take it so he walked up and hit it as hard as he could, and it had stopped dead in the mud before it reached the goal-line. True story.)
The 2 teams would come on for a kickabout, each taking an end for themselves. Frank Worthington, complete with Elvis ducktail, loved playing to the crowd. He would go to the opposition's end (the Barclay stand at my Carrow Road) and entertain them with tricks. Wonderfully skilled player, who seemed completely oblivious of his own genius. Makes you wonder what he could have achieved if someone had shown him the way.
Loved Martin Chivers - we called him the Jolly Green Giant. Nice man, no side to him. He would always run out of his way to retrieve the ball even if the opposition had been awarded the throw. Gentleman.
Norwich got Martin Peters from Spurs for £40k. This was the start of the £1m era, and we got him for £40k!! OK he was never the quickest, and his legs were starting to tire, but what quality. First home game and we were awarded a free kick at about 35 yards out - at the Barclay End we could see the whole thing from behind. He swerved the ball round the wall and there was a huge gasp from the crowd, It went into the side netting , but that's not the point. We'd never had a player before who could do that. Seriously. Talk about chuffed!
(Going back even further, my father-in-law played for City in the days when they used a real leather ball. They were playing West Ham on a soaked quagmire pitch and got awarded a penalty. Nobody wanted to take it so he walked up and hit it as hard as he could, and it had stopped dead in the mud before it reached the goal-line. True story.)
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alex Stepney is one of a handful of players who have won the European Cup in their city of birth. The others being Gareth Bale, Nicholas Anelka, Angelo Di Livio, Miguel Muñoz and Enrique Mateos.
Good quiz question.
Interesting....never knew that, I'm sure there's a few more...Good quiz question.
Of course no 70's thread is complete without a good fight........Lee v Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kxMnc5KUs
Wacky Racer said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alex Stepney is one of a handful of players who have won the European Cup in their city of birth. The others being Gareth Bale, Nicholas Anelka, Angelo Di Livio, Miguel Muñoz and Enrique Mateos.
Good quiz question.
Interesting....never knew that, I'm sure there's a few more...Good quiz question.
desolate said:
I was listening to the Bobby Charlton tributes the other night.
He and Nobby Styles won the World Cup, Top Division and Top European Cup.
have many other players done that?
Pah, that's nothing. Franz Beckenbaur did all that, and managed a world cup winning team. He and Nobby Styles won the World Cup, Top Division and Top European Cup.
have many other players done that?
But as for your question, I suspect a few in the Spanish team of 2010 with Madrid and Barca, and few of the German 74 side with B Munich.
Regarding mascots, I suppose the most famous one was England's Ken Bailey.....he was a batty old man who used to live in Bournemouth when I did in 1972, I often used to see him on the promenade by the pier, a somewhat "controversial" character...let's leave it at that.
Everton used to have a young girl going around the perimeter of the pitch throwing toffees into the crowd, some of the comments from opposition supporters were, shall we say X rated...
I remember at Maine Road about 1967 the Liverpool mascot planted a Liverpool flag in the centre circle before the game, the City mascot...(Both were about
seventeen years old) spotted this, ran on the pitch and snapped the flagpole over his knee.
Thereafter a fist fight started in the centre circle, and they had to be dragged apart by the police....
Everton used to have a young girl going around the perimeter of the pitch throwing toffees into the crowd, some of the comments from opposition supporters were, shall we say X rated...
I remember at Maine Road about 1967 the Liverpool mascot planted a Liverpool flag in the centre circle before the game, the City mascot...(Both were about
seventeen years old) spotted this, ran on the pitch and snapped the flagpole over his knee.
Thereafter a fist fight started in the centre circle, and they had to be dragged apart by the police....
Wacky Racer said:
Of course no 70's thread is complete without a good fight........Lee v Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kxMnc5KUs
If you want a good fight, just watch the whole of the 1970 cup final replay. This 2 footed challenge by Eddie McCreadie on Billy Bremner's head would probably be a red card today, and a 10 match ban. Not even a caution back then! Mind you, Leeds were a bunch of dirty swines, so he had it coming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kxMnc5KUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t_5sZ4-LRA
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Leeds were a bunch of dirty swines, so he had it coming.
& that still sticks today. We had a team who could play from any position on the park but if you wanted
Don't know if they still do but ITV4 used to show The Big Match early on a Sunday morning.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Pah, that's nothing. Franz Beckenbaur did all that, and managed a world cup winning team.
But as for your question, I suspect a few in the Spanish team of 2010 with Madrid and Barca, and few of the German 74 side with B Munich.
I forgot about Beckenbauer and I would think you are correct about Madrid and Barcelona.But as for your question, I suspect a few in the Spanish team of 2010 with Madrid and Barca, and few of the German 74 side with B Munich.
I can think of Xavi Alonso who will have played in the top English division - anyone else?
Although for some reason I can't seem to attribute the same achievement to those two teams as I would to Charlton, Styles and Beckenbauer.
And talking of Leeds - The Damned Utd is one of my favourite films of any genre, must have watched it 5 times and enjoyed every minute.
That Leeds side of the 70s were terrible. 10 thugs (all of whom were actually very good players, apart from Gary Sprake) and Eddie Gray. One of them would volley the ball into touch, and the other 10 would appeal for the throw in. They'd argue with the ref over the result of the coin toss.
Johnny Giles was just an animal (the only 70s footballer Chopper Harris still refuses to talk to, and he was no angel), Billy Bremner could have a fight in an empty room, Reeny, Madely, Charlton and Lorimer were all vicious bds. Mick Jones was as hard as nails too. I laughed like a drain when Sunderland beat them in the 73 final.
But the king of the hard men was Tommy "The Beast" Smith. Like a honey badger on speed.
Johnny Giles was just an animal (the only 70s footballer Chopper Harris still refuses to talk to, and he was no angel), Billy Bremner could have a fight in an empty room, Reeny, Madely, Charlton and Lorimer were all vicious bds. Mick Jones was as hard as nails too. I laughed like a drain when Sunderland beat them in the 73 final.
But the king of the hard men was Tommy "The Beast" Smith. Like a honey badger on speed.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
That Leeds side of the 70s were terrible. 10 thugs (all of whom were actually very good players, apart from Gary Sprake) and Eddie Gray. One of them would volley the ball into touch, and the other 10 would appeal for the throw in. They'd argue with the ref over the result of the coin toss.
Johnny Giles was just an animal (the only 70s footballer Chopper Harris still refuses to talk to, and he was no angel), Billy Bremner could have a fight in an empty room, Reeny, Madely, Charlton and Lorimer were all vicious bds. Mick Jones was as hard as nails too. I laughed like a drain when Sunderland beat them in the 73 final.
But the king of the hard men was Tommy "The Beast" Smith. Like a honey badger on speed.
Johnny Giles was one of the dirtiest players ever to put on a pair of football boots, sly with it, he didn't need to be, he was extremely talented like nearly all of the great Leeds team from 1968-72.Johnny Giles was just an animal (the only 70s footballer Chopper Harris still refuses to talk to, and he was no angel), Billy Bremner could have a fight in an empty room, Reeny, Madely, Charlton and Lorimer were all vicious bds. Mick Jones was as hard as nails too. I laughed like a drain when Sunderland beat them in the 73 final.
But the king of the hard men was Tommy "The Beast" Smith. Like a honey badger on speed.
I met Paul Reaney a few years back at my kids soccer school, a charming man
Leeds demolishing Southampton 7-0 at Elland Road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvyJKWF5Q74
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