Negative Effects of Football
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Why does football turn normal people into such complete morons.
My youngest son (15) was referring today. An u/11 game, so 9 a side and 30 mins each way, smaller goals and pitch, but that aside, just a normal match.
The home team coach was a guy of about 30, obviously giving up his time for free to coach kids and put something back into grass roots football, which is to be admired.
The home team were completely outplayed, lost by 3 goals but really should have lost by more. The game passed without any real incident. The home team appealed at one point for a free kick which my lad didn't give on that occasion. And towards the end of the game the home team had a shot on goal that went thru a crowd of players and wide. The asst ref never signalled for anything so my lad gave a goal kick. The home coach went mental, the asst ref then indicated it was a corner so my boy then gave the corner.
At the end of the game my lad did the rounds, shaking hands, and the home coach, in front of his group of 10/11 yr old kids, refused to shake his hand and called him an absolute disgrace! Now my lad has had a lot worse, but often in tight games where a big decision has swayed a game. But on this occasion, the match had passed off without any incident of note. and the outcome was never in doubt. The game had been played in a good spirit and my son was genuinely taken aback by his outburst.
What the hell gets into some people. It's kids' football ffs, not the CL final.
My youngest son (15) was referring today. An u/11 game, so 9 a side and 30 mins each way, smaller goals and pitch, but that aside, just a normal match.
The home team coach was a guy of about 30, obviously giving up his time for free to coach kids and put something back into grass roots football, which is to be admired.
The home team were completely outplayed, lost by 3 goals but really should have lost by more. The game passed without any real incident. The home team appealed at one point for a free kick which my lad didn't give on that occasion. And towards the end of the game the home team had a shot on goal that went thru a crowd of players and wide. The asst ref never signalled for anything so my lad gave a goal kick. The home coach went mental, the asst ref then indicated it was a corner so my boy then gave the corner.
At the end of the game my lad did the rounds, shaking hands, and the home coach, in front of his group of 10/11 yr old kids, refused to shake his hand and called him an absolute disgrace! Now my lad has had a lot worse, but often in tight games where a big decision has swayed a game. But on this occasion, the match had passed off without any incident of note. and the outcome was never in doubt. The game had been played in a good spirit and my son was genuinely taken aback by his outburst.
What the hell gets into some people. It's kids' football ffs, not the CL final.
I completely agree. Seen numerous instances at kids football which are completely over the top.
However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is), the ones who blow the whistle so softly no one hears it, the uncertain arm signals, get flustered and give into sideline bullies. Being a ref is always going to be difficult it's the nature of the beast, you need to have a strong character and be bold.
However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is), the ones who blow the whistle so softly no one hears it, the uncertain arm signals, get flustered and give into sideline bullies. Being a ref is always going to be difficult it's the nature of the beast, you need to have a strong character and be bold.
evo4a said:
you need to have a strong character and be bold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ01AAdNR7I
evo4a said:
I completely agree. Seen numerous instances at kids football which are completely over the top.
However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is), the ones who blow the whistle so softly no one hears it, the uncertain arm signals, get flustered and give into sideline bullies. Being a ref is always going to be difficult it's the nature of the beast, you need to have a strong character and be bold.
I think "hate" is a strong word in that context. I realise I'm biased, but I genuinely think he's a good ref. Firm but fair. He's no Howard Webb but for his age he does very well, and usually gets scores of 80%+ from both winning and losing coaches on their assessments.However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is), the ones who blow the whistle so softly no one hears it, the uncertain arm signals, get flustered and give into sideline bullies. Being a ref is always going to be difficult it's the nature of the beast, you need to have a strong character and be bold.
I think he's perfectly entitled to approach my lad, shake his hand and say he though he had a poor game and air his grievances. That's fine.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
evo4a said:
I completely agree. Seen numerous instances at kids football which are completely over the top.
However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is),
I think "hate" is a strong word in that context. However I do hate wishy washy refs (not saying your son is),
Adults at kids football are disgraceful.
I've given up coaching lads since my youngest reached 18. I only stuck with it that long because he was playing.
The abuse refs (and volunteers running the line) get is atrocious, particularly as 99% of the time the abusers are plain wrong and don't even know the laws of the game.
I've given up coaching lads since my youngest reached 18. I only stuck with it that long because he was playing.
The abuse refs (and volunteers running the line) get is atrocious, particularly as 99% of the time the abusers are plain wrong and don't even know the laws of the game.
DocJock said:
The abuse refs (and volunteers running the line) get is atrocious, particularly as 99% of the time the abusers are plain wrong and don't even know the laws of the game.
Agreed. I'm thinking of having a banner made to take with me to say:YOU CANNOT BE OFFSIDE IN YOUR OWN HALF
YOU CANNOT BE OFFSIDE FROM A THROW IN
MY SON MAY BE BLIND, INCOMPETENT, USELESS AND THE WORST REF IN THE WORLD, BUT HE IS NOT A CHEAT.
http://www.fifa.com/lotg/football/en/flash/start.h...
I got so fed up of it that I printed that on cards and handed one to the idiots as I couldn't be arsed arguing with them, particularly Law 11.
I got so fed up of it that I printed that on cards and handed one to the idiots as I couldn't be arsed arguing with them, particularly Law 11.
DocJock said:
Adults at kids football are disgraceful.
It all stems from the professional game, IMO. It appears to be acceptable to give the ref abuse without any reprisals - so not really a surprise the attitude flows down to a grass roots level. Interestingly cricket and rugby don't seem to have quite the same issues...
Podie said:
It all stems from the professional game, IMO. It appears to be acceptable to give the ref abuse without any reprisals - so not really a surprise the attitude flows down to a grass roots level.
Interestingly cricket and rugby don't seem to have quite the same issues...
Funny thing is, it doesn't flow down to the kids, who rarely give any trouble at all. Their behaviour is generally excellent. Interestingly cricket and rugby don't seem to have quite the same issues...
I remember when I used to referee my sister's girls under 10 matches...Harpenden Colts were playing Arsenal girls.
The Arsenal coach spent the whole match screaming obscenities at me, his team and the Gods. They thrashed us 13-1 and as we all plodded back to our cars he was still making his girls run around the pitch for a 20 minute warm down.
I got the feeling this guy had failed at everything else in life and therefore had to make it his mission to be the best u-10 girls coach in the country.
The Arsenal coach spent the whole match screaming obscenities at me, his team and the Gods. They thrashed us 13-1 and as we all plodded back to our cars he was still making his girls run around the pitch for a 20 minute warm down.
I got the feeling this guy had failed at everything else in life and therefore had to make it his mission to be the best u-10 girls coach in the country.
Sadly none of this is surprising. When the "elite" are allowed to behave like they are on the pitch it's clearly going to be imitated at lower levels.
Sadly for the OP his son will get a lot more of it as he continues his career as a ref.
It'd be pretty f
king easy to stop it but the cocks that run the game are just pathetic....as for the "they can't control their emotions...they're professional sportsmen" well that's just utter bks. Look at Rugby Union where the players are playing often under intense physical intimidation.....no nack chat/abuse of the ref. If there is it's penalty and 10 yards teritory given up.
Sadly for the OP his son will get a lot more of it as he continues his career as a ref.
It'd be pretty f
king easy to stop it but the cocks that run the game are just pathetic....as for the "they can't control their emotions...they're professional sportsmen" well that's just utter bks. Look at Rugby Union where the players are playing often under intense physical intimidation.....no nack chat/abuse of the ref. If there is it's penalty and 10 yards teritory given up.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff