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JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

Friday 28th June
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I think they have agreed to activate the clause but the transfer hasn't been confirmed anywhere yet.
I expect both transfers will be concluded this weekend.

The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

Saturday
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Rumours of Elanga going to NUFC, but Sky Sports just said we have no need to sell, don't want to sell, and now have no PSR issues. Happy Days if true!

Hackney

6,883 posts

211 months

Saturday
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OL’s head of recruitment is Matthieu Louis-Jean.

OL’s scouting manager is David Friio

Cheers lads.

The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

Saturday
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Hackney said:
OL’s head of recruitment is Matthieu Louis-Jean.

OL’s scouting manager is David Friio

Cheers lads.
Nice research. I'm pretty sure Louis Jeans first goal was the first game my missus saw at the City Ground!

ETA, wasn't Matthieu, was Jim Brennan v Norwich in 2003...Matthieu was playing though!

Edited by The G Kid on Saturday 29th June 20:20


Edited by The G Kid on Saturday 29th June 20:20

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

Elliot Anderson to Forest for circa 30m yet we have to get in 20m before the end of the day to be within the rules?
PSR is just crazy!

Gargamel

15,087 posts

264 months

JurassicGTS said:
Elliot Anderson to Forest for circa 30m yet we have to get in 20m before the end of the day to be within the rules?
PSR is just crazy!
I can only assume that means Murillo is going out?

I am not sure we even made it yet, without that fee on top ?




The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

I think we are selling the Greek keeper to Newcastle as part of the deal. Probably part of the whole PSR fudge!

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

Gargamel said:
I can only assume that means Murillo is going out?

I am not sure we even made it yet, without that fee on top ?
Doesn't seem like it, Niakate and Mangala to Lyon and the Greek keeper to Newcastle.

Gargamel

15,087 posts

264 months

The G Kid said:
I think we are selling the Greek keeper to Newcastle as part of the deal. Probably part of the whole PSR fudge!
That seems this seasons tactics, arranged sales and paper values.

adaptive

825 posts

193 months

£30m doesn't count to PSR fully for us as the buyer, its only fully counted for PSR as the seller, so £30m into NUFC's balance sheet before 30th June.
Whatever we "get" for Vlach is amortised for PSR so for example, Vlach cost us £4m on a 4 year contract, 3 years left on his contract means anything over £3m from NUFC is a PSR profit. If NUFC scratch our back like we scratched theirs and get £10m, that's £7m in PSR profit

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

Niakate and Mangala seemingly gone avoiding any PSR risks and Greek Keeper offloaded, bringing in Anderson, liking this already.
Off load Worral, O'Brien and maybe a couple of others, bring in a quality striker and central defender and that's a great window!

Hackney

6,883 posts

211 months

adaptive said:
£30m doesn't count to PSR fully for us as the buyer, its only fully counted for PSR as the seller, so £30m into NUFC's balance sheet before 30th June.
Whatever we "get" for Vlach is amortised for PSR so for example, Vlach cost us £4m on a 4 year contract, 3 years left on his contract means anything over £3m from NUFC is a PSR profit. If NUFC scratch our back like we scratched theirs and get £10m, that's £7m in PSR profit
Can you explain what you mean by the bit I've highlighted, please?

My thinking was that because, as long as the PL is notified a deal is imminent, it can go through several days after the 30th June.
In this case we agree to buy Anderson, so Newcastle notify the PL and the transfer is classed as 30th June, meanwhile we just put it through on the 1st of July. Reverse this for Vlachodimos.

Entirely speculation on my part but I couldn't understand how two clubs who need to sell, could be buying players on PSR deadline day.

adaptive

825 posts

193 months

Hackney said:
Can you explain what you mean by the bit I've highlighted, please?

My thinking was that because, as long as the PL is notified a deal is imminent, it can go through several days after the 30th June.
In this case we agree to buy Anderson, so Newcastle notify the PL and the transfer is classed as 30th June, meanwhile we just put it through on the 1st of July. Reverse this for Vlachodimos.

Entirely speculation on my part but I couldn't understand how two clubs who need to sell, could be buying players on PSR deadline day.
My understanding from what I've read and heard from various sources is that us buying Anderson means that the £35m (or whatever is the price) can be counted on NUFC's accounts for the season just ended with regard to PSR, so they get +£35m on their balance sheet as he is a homegrown academy player so pure profit.
With regard to how the purchase affects our PSR for the season just ended, is not fully clear, but as I understand it, the £35m cost doesn't go against our accounts for the season just ended as the cost is amortised over the length of the contract, so £7m per year, but the PSR cost is calculated per day, so only £20k in this years accounts as there was one day left of the accounting year.... what happens over the next 12 months is another matter

The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

Yesterday (08:56)
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adaptive said:
My understanding from what I've read and heard from various sources is that us buying Anderson means that the £35m (or whatever is the price) can be counted on NUFC's accounts for the season just ended with regard to PSR, so they get +£35m on their balance sheet as he is a homegrown academy player so pure profit.
With regard to how the purchase affects our PSR for the season just ended, is not fully clear, but as I understand it, the £35m cost doesn't go against our accounts for the season just ended as the cost is amortised over the length of the contract, so £7m per year, but the PSR cost is calculated per day, so only £20k in this years accounts as there was one day left of the accounting year.... what happens over the next 12 months is another matter
From what I understand, you have got it 100% correct!

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

Yesterday (18:37)
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Mangala's exit confirmed today.