The Official England Thread- The Team We All Support [Vol 3]

The Official England Thread- The Team We All Support [Vol 3]

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OMITN

2,289 posts

95 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Radec][b said:
I can't wait for Southgate to leave or be sacked, the guy is totally inept for this level of football.
Doesn't have a clue or shows that he can adapt to his opposition.[/b]

We don't even have a good pool of English managers to pick from so the cycle will continue.

Besides Howe, O'Neill, Potter who aren't exactly amazing themselves, it's very slim pickings.
I don’t get this.

2018 World Cup semi finalists. 2020 Euros finalists. 2022 World Cup semi-finalists.

Sure, he’s cautious and considers every angle (famously upsetting the footballing world with his diverse advisory team).

As fans, we want Premier League flair, but that’s not his style. Frankly I’d rather go out in a blaze of glory, but that’s because I love the thrill of tournament football - do or die, death or glory.



Killer2005

19,747 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th June
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PRO5T said:
Wow this female pundit almost makes me want to follow Joey Barton on social media. Almost.
She's the one who took some slating for saying Leeds only got promoted due to COVID so she's not popular with our fans.

Castrol for a knave

4,901 posts

94 months

Tuesday 25th June
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tamore said:
my only hope is that when england aren't favourites and against a team trying to play and not just defend, there's more space to exploit.
I wondered the same. All three teams we have played have been pretty undynamic, almost playing for a point. Tend to do 3 substitutions and go full gas in the last 10 minutes in hope of a cheeky goal against us.

Hopefully against a team with more pace, we will get more space to play to our strengths.

Catweazle

1,374 posts

145 months

Tuesday 25th June
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James6112 said:
Dreadful!
Get the ball, look around, pass it backwards
I’ve switched over to watch Sewing Bee on Iplayer!
England deserve to lose
I did that at half-time, now watching on plus 1.

732NM

5,287 posts

18 months

Tuesday 25th June
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OMITN said:
I don’t get this.

2018 World Cup semi finalists. 2020 Euros finalists. 2022 World Cup semi-finalists.

Sure, he’s cautious and considers every angle (famously upsetting the footballing world with his diverse advisory team).

As fans, we want Premier League flair, but that’s not his style. Frankly I’d rather go out in a blaze of glory, but that’s because I love the thrill of tournament football - do or die, death or glory.
All very favourable draws.

We have lucked into another favourable draw, so expect "sucess" until we have to play a proper team.

Tycho

11,693 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th June
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57Ford said:
Cheers. That scuppers me. Why do people plan weddings when there are big football matches on? Best mate got married on the day we thrashed Germany 5-1 and now I’ll be driving home from the airport for this one.
He's probably done you a favour.

PRO5T

4,256 posts

28 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Killer2005 said:
PRO5T said:
Wow this female pundit almost makes me want to follow Joey Barton on social media. Almost.
She's the one who took some slating for saying Leeds only got promoted due to COVID so she's not popular with our fans.
I haven't watched football since the last world cup so I'm not overly aware of the personalities, my wife (who has less idea than me) simply said "who's this?!", when I said I'd no idea she said "she's one of those who knows nothing but thinks shouting out any words might make people think she does".

Radec

4,061 posts

50 months

Tuesday 25th June
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OMITN said:
Radec][b said:
I can't wait for Southgate to leave or be sacked, the guy is totally inept for this level of football.
Doesn't have a clue or shows that he can adapt to his opposition.[/b]

We don't even have a good pool of English managers to pick from so the cycle will continue.

Besides Howe, O'Neill, Potter who aren't exactly amazing themselves, it's very slim pickings.
I don’t get this.

2018 World Cup semi finalists. 2020 Euros finalists. 2022 World Cup semi-finalists.

Sure, he’s cautious and considers every angle (famously upsetting the footballing world with his diverse advisory team).

As fans, we want Premier League flair, but that’s not his style. Frankly I’d rather go out in a blaze of glory, but that’s because I love the thrill of tournament football - do or die, death or glory.
Yeah we've gotten further in tournaments previously but I think that's just been a number of factors, not his management being the sole factor which is what it should be.

I've watched a lot of games in this tournament and hand on heart can say we have been one of the worst teams in it, in terms of how we play and chance creation.
I don't think we even have an xG of 1 yet.

I've seen a lot of so called minnows play better than we have so far

The squad selection wasn't right from the off with no left sided full back.

Experimenting with Trent in midfield part way through a tournament.
Swapping him with Gallagher who is a hybrid Scott Parker/Jimmy Bullard because he's got more energy, wtf

The guy doesn't even know who his first 11 should be.

We set up in one way regardless of opposition and don't change unless we have to.



Catweazle

1,374 posts

145 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Catweazle said:
James6112 said:
Dreadful!
Get the ball, look around, pass it backwards
I’ve switched over to watch Sewing Bee on Iplayer!
England deserve to lose
I did that at half-time, now watching on plus 1.
Now wishing I hadn't.

soupdragon1

4,223 posts

100 months

Tuesday 25th June
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From a neutral point of view, I think England still have a great chance to go all the way.

Performances have been poor, but good enough to never really look like losing a game. It can literally only get better really.

Wouldn't change the starting line up other than Saka to be replaced by Palmer and Mainoo with Rice instead of Trent or Gallagher.

Seen an improvement in Foden but disappointed in the Bellingham performance. If one more player needs hooked, maybe replace him with Gordon.

It's got to the stage, 3 games in, that most of the rest of the squad won't get a look in now. Bellingham and Kane should have been subbed at 60 to get a look at another couple of players, but that didn't happen so I really can't see them getting much game time now it's the knockout stage. So I think that was a mistake from Southgate.

In all likelihood, it'll be another 2 games coming up without meeting one of the very best teams. So a good chance to get your starting 11 figured out and get them firing for the top opposition to come later. That's why I think England are still in with a strong chance of going all the way. The players are certainly good enough.

Xenoous

1,145 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Magikarp

836 posts

51 months

Tuesday 25th June
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England are fun again, apparently.

Challo

10,394 posts

158 months

Tuesday 25th June
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OMITN said:
I don’t get this.

2018 World Cup semi finalists. 2020 Euros finalists. 2022 World Cup semi-finalists.

Sure, he’s cautious and considers every angle (famously upsetting the footballing world with his diverse advisory team).

As fans, we want Premier League flair, but that’s not his style. Frankly I’d rather go out in a blaze of glory, but that’s because I love the thrill of tournament football - do or die, death or glory.
2018 World Cup
Group Games - beat Tunisa, Panama but lost to Belgium
Last 16 - beat Columbia on pens
Qtr - beat Sweden
Semi - lost to Croatia on pens

2020 - Euros
Group Games - beat Croatia, Czech and drew against Scotland
Last 16 - beat Germany
Qtr - beat Ukraine
Semi - beat Denmark
Final - lost to Italy

2022 - World Cup
Group Games - beat Iran, Wales drew against USA
Last 16 - bt Senegal
Qtr - lost to France

If you look at those teams any one decent we have lost against. The only good wins where against a poor Germany side. The remaining teams are poor and we have been very fortunate

Edited by Challo on Wednesday 26th June 06:30

G-wiz

2,339 posts

29 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Too much tattoo-age and macquillage in this team.

Wouldn't be allowed in the Republic of G-wiz.

48k

13,371 posts

151 months

Wednesday 26th June
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Challo said:
2018 World Cup
Group Games - beat Tunisa, Columbia but lost to Belgium
Last 16 - beat Columbia on pens
Qtr - beat Sweden
Semi - lost to Croatia on pens
We wouldn't have played Columbia in the group AND in the round of 16.

Challo

10,394 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th June
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48k said:
We wouldn't have played Columbia in the group AND in the round of 16.
Yep meant to write Panama in the group.

Nardies

1,181 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th June
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I know where I've seen this kind of football before, it was that Father Ted episode where Jack scores in his remote controlled wheelchair.

I'd like to think GS will learn from these games, but he's not got form for it. He has his 11 and he tends to stick with it, I mean I'm surprised we don't still have Raheem Stirling in this squad, given how long he stuck with him.

Just feels like he's there to protect the players from all the big bad fans and press, rather than come up with an approach to play good football

Frimley111R

15,742 posts

237 months

Wednesday 26th June
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One of the pundits noted that by now the team should be gelling, but it isn't...

thehop

185 posts

48 months

Wednesday 26th June
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2018 World Cup SF - we lost 2-1 to Croatia (not pens)

GloverMart

11,980 posts

218 months

Wednesday 26th June
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tamore said:
if we're hell bent of playing the double pivot malarkey, it rice and…………. arnold? no. gallagher? no mainoo? maybe. bellingham? probably should be.

it's called a double pivot (i hate that term) for a reason. the team revolves around it, and if it isn't working……………...
You've missed out the player who IMO would be best suited to playing alongside Rice.

Adam Wharton.