2024 UEFA European Football Championship

2024 UEFA European Football Championship

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robscot

2,330 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd June
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SWoll said:
No chance. Tried to buy a pen by jumping in front of the defender and wrapping himself up. Correct decision made.
Coming on here with your facts... tut. Stone wall wink

2HFL

1,342 posts

44 months

Sunday 23rd June
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SWoll said:
Mark_S1000RR_2010 said:
Stone cold penalty. Unbelievable.
No chance. Tried to buy a pen by jumping in front of the defender and wrapping himself up. Correct decision made.
Thought the same tbh and I’ve no anti-Scottish agenda.

Honourable Dead Snark

452 posts

22 months

Sunday 23rd June
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SWoll said:
No chance. Tried to buy a pen by jumping in front of the defender and wrapping himself up. Correct decision made.
As if that matters.

If it was offside maybe that’s why it wasn’t checked because really can’t see any other reason why.

Glad Scotland are out. Didn’t do anything to deserve going through and are awful to watch into the bargain

Edited by Honourable Dead Snark on Sunday 23 June 22:10

Patrick Bateman

12,237 posts

177 months

Sunday 23rd June
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That was a penalty all day, he's completely entitled to get himself between the ball and the opponent.

SWoll

18,783 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Honourable Dead Snark said:
Glad Scotland are out. Didn’t do anything to deserve going through and are awful to watch into the bargain
Yes. I have no feelings about them one way or the other, but from a purely football perspective they've been the worst team in the tournament based on games I've watched.

That said, England haven't been much better so far..

Patrick Bateman said:
That was a penalty all day, he's completely entitled to get himself between the ball and the opponent.
He slows down and sticks his leg out to get the contact, and then pulls the guy over himself to add to the affect. Never had any intention of actually trying to score and got what he deserved.

I see the BBC pundits are lapping it up, surprise, surprise.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 23 June 22:17

Flip Martian

19,849 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd June
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Patrick Bateman said:
That was a penalty all day, he's completely entitled to get himself between the ball and the opponent.
He is. It's up to the defender not to clatter into him - and he did. It's not a gentleman's sport. However, a friend tells me "the lad on Norwegian TV" (whoever that was) said he was offside before going down for the penalty. Not seen it again so can't agree or disagree.

romft123

594 posts

7 months

Monday 24th June
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it was a penalty......but the jocks were crap so , byeeee

RichB

51,993 posts

287 months

Monday 24th June
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romft123 said:
it was a penalty......but the jocks were crap so , byeeee
I thought so too but now people are saying he may have been offside, I guess we'll never know.

romft123

594 posts

7 months

Monday 24th June
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Oh and the "please be nice to us and dont say anything nasty like, we are crap" drivel from kane was pathetic imho.....

Flip Martian

19,849 posts

193 months

Monday 24th June
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Steve Clarke has a right to feel aggrieved about the non penalty after the game but saying the referee shouldn't have been allowed because he was from Argentina and not Europe was incredibly stupid.

Bad game, 2 awful teams. Neither deserve to get through ultimately (and I say that having wanted Scotland to get out of the group).

FrankAbagnale

1,713 posts

115 months

Monday 24th June
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I rewound it a bit to see if it was offside to understand why VAR didn't check it and doesn't look offside to me.

I thought it was a penalty. But, am a little surprised VAR didn't appear to check it properly.

I didn't watch the Germany game but was there a penalty shout there too?

Thinking back, I thought Germany got lucky with their goal in the second group game. A foul on the defender in the box followed by a goal.


Speed 3

4,767 posts

122 months

Monday 24th June
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In many respects the lack of penalties and VAR turnovers in the tournament is refreshing. Time to kick on with the automated offside tech and accept its error rate and give back control to the ref except for glaring errors. And finally do something about the handball law.

Flip Martian

19,849 posts

193 months

Monday 24th June
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Speed 3 said:
In many respects the lack of penalties and VAR turnovers in the tournament is refreshing. Time to kick on with the automated offside tech and accept its error rate and give back control to the ref except for glaring errors. And finally do something about the handball law.
Don't say that to Lukaku - he's had 3 chalked off so far. hehe

Byker28i

62,116 posts

220 months

Monday 24th June
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Barnabas Varga stretchered off after being knocked unconscious has a fractured cheek

"Several bones in Barnabas Varga's face were broken during the collision during the match, and he also suffered a concussion. The Ferencvaros striker is most likely to undergo surgery. He spends the night in the hospital in Stuttgart. The whole team is rooting for him!"

Patrick Bateman

12,237 posts

177 months

Monday 24th June
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SWoll said:
He slows down and sticks his leg out to get the contact, and then pulls the guy over himself to add to the affect. Never had any intention of actually trying to score and got what he deserved.

I see the BBC pundits are lapping it up, surprise, surprise.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 23 June 22:17
So he got in between the ball and the defender, which is what a forward should be doing, then the defender was clumsy enough to drive into his left knee and bring him down?

mickk

29,089 posts

245 months

Monday 24th June
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Byker28i said:
Barnabas Varga stretchered off after being knocked unconscious has a fractured cheek

"Several bones in Barnabas Varga's face were broken during the collision during the match, and he also suffered a concussion. The Ferencvaros striker is most likely to undergo surgery. He spends the night in the hospital in Stuttgart. The whole team is rooting for him!"
I feared the worst when the screens were placed around him.

TownIdiot

518 posts

2 months

Monday 24th June
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Patrick Bateman said:
SWoll said:
He slows down and sticks his leg out to get the contact, and then pulls the guy over himself to add to the affect. Never had any intention of actually trying to score and got what he deserved.

I see the BBC pundits are lapping it up, surprise, surprise.

Edited by SWoll on Sunday 23 June 22:17
So he got in between the ball and the defender, which is what a forward should be doing, then the defender was clumsy enough to drive into his left knee and bring him down?
Saw this a few times today and it looked a penalty to me

Apart from the fact that the same clips made him look offside.

Ridiculous that we don't know if it was off or not. Fair enough if they decide he bought it, but why no angles of the offside?

Flip Martian

19,849 posts

193 months

Monday 24th June
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Byker28i said:
Barnabas Varga stretchered off after being knocked unconscious has a fractured cheek

"Several bones in Barnabas Varga's face were broken during the collision during the match, and he also suffered a concussion. The Ferencvaros striker is most likely to undergo surgery. He spends the night in the hospital in Stuttgart. The whole team is rooting for him!"
While that's obviously a serious enough injury, the whole "oh we can't possibly show a replay of this" reaction from the BBC was a bit OTT. Players have been getting badly injured for many years, albeit thankfully rarely. Do we need to see slow mo replays of players like Eriksen and Muamba "dying" on the pitch - no, of course not. Or horrible limb breaks, like David Busst suffered. On the other hand, 2 players accidentally colliding resulting in 1 breaking cheekbones doesn't need closeups and forensic examination but just replaying the incident in real time seems pretty innocuous - players collide all the time. Maybe this is a generational thing and people are more upset by that kind of thing nowadays and that's what the BBC take into account.

Venisonpie

3,352 posts

85 months

Monday 24th June
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Flip Martian said:
While that's obviously a serious enough injury, the whole "oh we can't possibly show a replay of this" reaction from the BBC was a bit OTT. Players have been getting badly injured for many years, albeit thankfully rarely. Do we need to see slow mo replays of players like Eriksen and Muamba "dying" on the pitch - no, of course not. Or horrible limb breaks, like David Busst suffered. On the other hand, 2 players accidentally colliding resulting in 1 breaking cheekbones doesn't need closeups and forensic examination but just replaying the incident in real time seems pretty innocuous - players collide all the time. Maybe this is a generational thing and people are more upset by that kind of thing nowadays and that's what the BBC take into account.
I suspect the beeb were being fed pics from the German broadcaster rather than having editing access.

Cie

18,829 posts

196 months

Monday 24th June
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Venisonpie said:
Flip Martian said:
While that's obviously a serious enough injury, the whole "oh we can't possibly show a replay of this" reaction from the BBC was a bit OTT. Players have been getting badly injured for many years, albeit thankfully rarely. Do we need to see slow mo replays of players like Eriksen and Muamba "dying" on the pitch - no, of course not. Or horrible limb breaks, like David Busst suffered. On the other hand, 2 players accidentally colliding resulting in 1 breaking cheekbones doesn't need closeups and forensic examination but just replaying the incident in real time seems pretty innocuous - players collide all the time. Maybe this is a generational thing and people are more upset by that kind of thing nowadays and that's what the BBC take into account.
I suspect the beeb were being fed pics from the German broadcaster rather than having editing access.
I believe so. The commentators mentioned it's normal now for pictures not to be shown after what happened to Eriksen. At the time it looked more serious than it is so I can understand tbh.