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What’s this idiot Clark going on about in his post match interviews “ it was only ever going to be a one goal game “.
A massively dour and negative man. Needs to go and try and get somebody in with a bit of spark. Sick to death of the woe is me Scottish mentality. Always somebody else’s fault.
A massively dour and negative man. Needs to go and try and get somebody in with a bit of spark. Sick to death of the woe is me Scottish mentality. Always somebody else’s fault.
Alickadoo said:
The thing I don't understand is why the Scots are going home?
Why don't they stay on and support England?
After all, we are all British, aren't we?
Some of us do cheer England on and want them to do well, we just do it quietly and anonymously. Why don't they stay on and support England?
After all, we are all British, aren't we?
Imagine your next-door neighbour has a McLaren, a 911, and a Huracan on his driveway, and you have a crusty old Fiat Panda, a ratty Dacia Logan, and a BYD Sardine. You admire your neighbours cars, you wish you had them, but you don't necessarily give him the thumbs up every day and tell him how awesome they are.
In return you respect the fact that he doesn't tell you what you already know - that your cars are s
t.Edited by yellowbentines on Monday 24th June 18:26
Se7enheaven said:
What’s this idiot Clark going on about in his post match interviews “ it was only ever going to be a one goal game “.
A massively dour and negative man. Needs to go and try and get somebody in with a bit of spark. Sick to death of the woe is me Scottish mentality. Always somebody else’s fault.
Quite - I have to laugh at all the comments and memes this week about Southgate being cautious and negative... Clarke is even worse, a man so dour he sucks the life out of every situation. We need to rememeber Scotland qualified for this tournament basically by beating an understrength and shambolic Spain, and then a series of workmanlike performances and some very close finishes, not any really insirational showings. A massively dour and negative man. Needs to go and try and get somebody in with a bit of spark. Sick to death of the woe is me Scottish mentality. Always somebody else’s fault.
We need a new approach - yes be hard to beat, but we need to find a way to register shots on goal against better than minnow opposition. In none of the games was there a discernable shape or plan, just slowly walking the ball up the field waiting for a defensive mistake that guys at this level simply don't make.
Edited by abzmike on Monday 24th June 13:12
Edited by abzmike on Monday 24th June 13:13
nunpuncher said:
Don Veloci said:
A tight first half is fine but why not go at it differently and aggressively straight from the second half start, catch them cold, lift the crowd, and go out on shields if it doesn't work.
Like what Hungary did. CivicDuties said:
Derek Smith said:
Alickadoo said:
The thing I don't understand is why the Scots are going home?
Why don't they stay on and support England?
After all, we are all British, aren't we?
I support all home nations, but see myself and English despite being half Irish. I support Wales if neither of my inherited teams are playing. But not Scotland.Why don't they stay on and support England?
After all, we are all British, aren't we?
It's to do with policing football crowds. If England beat Ireland or Wales, I never had any problems with the supporters, and I policed a lot of football back in the day. Scotland seemed to be trouble whether they won or drew. They were like Liverpool supporters. Always aggravation.
I'm mainly rugby, and I returned from Twickenham by underground from a match we - England - had won against the Welsh, and it was a thoroughly entertaining journey. They were singing. All the damn way. I'd take my wife and kids to see an England match against Wales or Ireland. I went to one Scotland match, and a mate and I felt it best to wait an hour or so to return following some uncomfortable experiences on the way out.
It irritates me. I feel I should support them as much as the other HN teams.
For the record I have Scottish, Welsh, English and Maltese heritage.
At court the next day, the OIC wanted to go for a remand in custody despite there being no reasons, even in thos, less fussy, days. The bloke's language, attitudes and refusal to acknowledge the magistrates meant that, in their eyes at least, there were enough. Got 7 days inside on remand for his troubles. The nights inspector bailed other prisoners at the nick due to his screams and shouting. He would have had to conform at the remand prison. They had ways denied us.
Despite working for seven years with regular football/rugby crowds on Saturdays, including 14 prisoners one, very long, Saturday, I've not nicked a Welsh rugby supporter. Might have felt like it when one burst into yet another rendition of land of my fathers on the tube. I've got perfect pitch, and the one big regret I have is how rare that is.
The Germans are now just kicking sand in our face when we're down -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5111zp7egwo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5111zp7egwo
yellowbentines said:
The Germans are now just kicking sand in our face when we're down -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5111zp7egwo
They should have played Yakety Sax https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5111zp7egwo
frank hovis said:
If and big if
SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
Poach Dick and Ian Campbell from East Fife (Are they still there?) SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
SFA could probably afford the compo.Get Jim Leishman back in the game
Dick and Jim popped into my head from the speakers circuit but joking aside I've no issue looking outwith Scotland. What managers have been doing well with other diddy (in size, not performance) nations? Who can be poached?
frank hovis said:
If and big if
SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
But wasnt it just a couple of months ago West Ham were being told by every fan in the country that we were so lucky to have Moyes, and that he is a winner, and that he wins trophies and that we should be careful what we wish for SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
Given all the media and fan love in for him, surely everyone should want him right now.
frank hovis said:
If and big if
SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
Stuart Baxter - the name that got suggested for years any time there was a managerial vacancy in Scotland.SFA get rid of Clark
Who’s next in line
Moyes ? More that Meh for me , same as Clark
Mcinnes? A younger version of Clark
Do they look to the continent and see who is available
towser said:
Mourinho is free is he not?
Scotland manager may be just the job for him :-)
Afraid not, he's got a job in TurkeyScotland manager may be just the job for him :-)
We can't persevere with Clarke. Yes, injuries cost him dearly, but his set up was negative and inflexible, almost arrogant.
The Switzerland game was there for winning and he settled for a draw before the hour was up. His substitutions came in the 90th minute and were timewasting instead of tactical.
The Hungary game, he was set up far too negatively and wouldn't change it until time was against us. He should have been 4 at the back there and 5 in front, make use of the wingers in the squad and a striker that isn't Adams. We got everything we deserved out that game.
Dimebars said:
Afraid not, he's got a job in Turkey
We can't persevere with Clarke. Yes, injuries cost him dearly, but his set up was negative and inflexible, almost arrogant.
The Switzerland game was there for winning and he settled for a draw before the hour was up. His substitutions came in the 90th minute and were timewasting instead of tactical.
The Hungary game, he was set up far too negatively and wouldn't change it until time was against us. He should have been 4 at the back there and 5 in front, make use of the wingers in the squad and a striker that isn't Adams. We got everything we deserved out that game.
Shame Mourinho’s got a job….I could have done with a laugh. We can't persevere with Clarke. Yes, injuries cost him dearly, but his set up was negative and inflexible, almost arrogant.
The Switzerland game was there for winning and he settled for a draw before the hour was up. His substitutions came in the 90th minute and were timewasting instead of tactical.
The Hungary game, he was set up far too negatively and wouldn't change it until time was against us. He should have been 4 at the back there and 5 in front, make use of the wingers in the squad and a striker that isn't Adams. We got everything we deserved out that game.
I think those ill advised friendlies against Netherlands, France and England just killed any momentum and confidence the team had - not sure how much say Clarke would have had in those but it’s been an uphill battle since then.
I’d give him the first three games of the Nations League to see if there’s any sign of improvement and a more positive approach.
towser said:
Shame Mourinho’s got a job….I could have done with a laugh.
I think those ill advised friendlies against Netherlands, France and England just killed any momentum and confidence the team had - not sure how much say Clarke would have had in those but it’s been an uphill battle since then.
I’d give him the first three games of the Nations League to see if there’s any sign of improvement and a more positive approach.
In Nations League we have Poland and Portugal away, then Croatia at hone... any positive result out of those games will be tough.I think those ill advised friendlies against Netherlands, France and England just killed any momentum and confidence the team had - not sure how much say Clarke would have had in those but it’s been an uphill battle since then.
I’d give him the first three games of the Nations League to see if there’s any sign of improvement and a more positive approach.
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