The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)
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simon800 said:
I've not seen him much, but he looked pretty clumsy against us at Old Trafford.
£70mn and £150k a week would be absolutely mental, that seems like a Woodward special. I hope the figures being bandied around are just paper talk....
Hopefully with INEOS now in place, we won't have all our eggs in one basket (as we always seemed to under the glazers) and if Everton aren't willing to play ball then we move on to someone else. We shouldn't be paying any more than 50m imo.£70mn and £150k a week would be absolutely mental, that seems like a Woodward special. I hope the figures being bandied around are just paper talk....
GTO-3R said:
Hopefully with INEOS now in place, we won't have all our eggs in one basket (as we always seemed to under the glazers) and if Everton aren't willing to play ball then we move on to someone else. We shouldn't be paying any more than 50m imo.
Yep that seems sensible and I share your hope! simon800 said:
bstb3 said:
Close to getting Branthwaite in apparently. No fee agreed, but we are allowed to talk to the player somehow and have agreed terms with him. Getting things done early doors for once.
Is he any good? Honestly haven't watched Everton much, I know he seems rated though.
I've not seen him much, but he looked pretty clumsy against us at Old Trafford. Is he any good? Honestly haven't watched Everton much, I know he seems rated though.
£70mn and £150k a week would be absolutely mental, that seems like a Woodward special. I hope the figures being bandied around are just paper talk....
I know some of you read the Athletic, but a really good indepth article about the background of ETH and last few seasons.
Goes into detail about some of the issues with him and his approach / style, conflicts between players and staff, what happened with Sancho and also Antony
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549017/2024/06/1...
Worth a read if you get some time.
Goes into detail about some of the issues with him and his approach / style, conflicts between players and staff, what happened with Sancho and also Antony
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549017/2024/06/1...
Worth a read if you get some time.
simon800 said:
I've not seen him much, but he looked pretty clumsy against us at Old Trafford.
£70mn and £150k a week would be absolutely mental, that seems like a Woodward special. I hope the figures being bandied around are just paper talk....
35m + 8m opening bid. Rejected by Everton. £70mn and £150k a week would be absolutely mental, that seems like a Woodward special. I hope the figures being bandied around are just paper talk....
Challo said:
I know some of you read the Athletic, but a really good indepth article about the background of ETH and last few seasons.
Goes into detail about some of the issues with him and his approach / style, conflicts between players and staff, what happened with Sancho and also Antony
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549017/2024/06/1...
Worth a read if you get some time.
Good read that, interesting how player power, social media, press, medical, and backroom staff have all played a part. No manager can encounter all that and fix it all in 2 seasons. Goes into detail about some of the issues with him and his approach / style, conflicts between players and staff, what happened with Sancho and also Antony
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549017/2024/06/1...
Worth a read if you get some time.
Brailsford is a proponent for marginal gains (improve each area by 1% and it starts adding up) the same could be said in reverse, too many small things going wrong has a cumulative affect on the overall perfomance
57Ford said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Retained on the strength of one game because I don't think there was any doubt he was being sacked if you lost that game.
It's a funny old sport.
Not saying it’s necessarily going to work out the same but we do have history of that being a good decision. It's a funny old sport.
Linekar was giving a bit of detail on it at the end of this morning's The Rest is Football podcast. ETH not too happy about the way he was treated. Seems like Utd spoke to a number of managers before deciding he was staying.
Still convinced he'd be unemployed if you hadn't pulled it out the bag at Wembley. But then wasn't SAF one game away too?
Yes, it’s believed so and that’s what I was alluding to.
Long and short of it is that ETH is staying for now and hopefully with the help of the new structure behind him and less catastrophic injuries to the paper-thin first team squad, he’ll begin to show some improvement before the end of the upcoming season.
I’m still of the opinion that he shouldn’t be offered any new contract now because he’s still got 1 year plus another as an option so we have time to evaluate his performance.
Long and short of it is that ETH is staying for now and hopefully with the help of the new structure behind him and less catastrophic injuries to the paper-thin first team squad, he’ll begin to show some improvement before the end of the upcoming season.
I’m still of the opinion that he shouldn’t be offered any new contract now because he’s still got 1 year plus another as an option so we have time to evaluate his performance.
57Ford said:
Yes, it’s believed so and that’s what I was alluding to.
Long and short of it is that ETH is staying for now and hopefully with the help of the new structure behind him and less catastrophic injuries to the paper-thin first team squad, he’ll begin to show some improvement before the end of the upcoming season.
I’m still of the opinion that he shouldn’t be offered any new contract now because he’s still got 1 year plus another as an option so we have time to evaluate his performance.
I get your point, but now they have done the review and decided ETH is their man they need to offer him a new deal. They couldn't take all the flack for the review process, go full circle and back ETH but then say no to a new contract. Long and short of it is that ETH is staying for now and hopefully with the help of the new structure behind him and less catastrophic injuries to the paper-thin first team squad, he’ll begin to show some improvement before the end of the upcoming season.
I’m still of the opinion that he shouldn’t be offered any new contract now because he’s still got 1 year plus another as an option so we have time to evaluate his performance.
Just undermines him, and the players know he could be off in a year. Also any new players coming on would want to get confidence in the fact they know who the manager will be in the next few years.
I suspect given the new contract hasn't been signed that there is stipulations being inserted in about the control he has at the club and what the first team needs to achieve in performances and results.
I also get your point. Both points of view make sense to me but if there’s a new contract, it would surely be obvious to the players that there would be performance clauses in it so if they want to throw him under the bus, they still can.
I’d hate to think we’re about to give him a new 3 year deal now and still be parting ways in a year. That’s just daft and would impact the finances for very little gain vs not renewing just yet until he’s had chance to show improvement.
I’d hate to think we’re about to give him a new 3 year deal now and still be parting ways in a year. That’s just daft and would impact the finances for very little gain vs not renewing just yet until he’s had chance to show improvement.
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