The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]
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phil_cardiff said:
I was shot down for suggesting a new manager wouldn't be expected to make many signings in his first season. But it actually makes a good deal of sense.
Well I agree, there has been little continuity in the player buying dept. I have said this a couple of times before but tend to get ignored. But that's fine. 
phil_cardiff said:
I was shot down for suggesting a new manager wouldn't be expected to make many signings in his first season. But it actually makes a good deal of sense.
It does if the existing squad matrue and improve, ie Nunez, Gakpo, Sboz and the young defenderswe have only lost Thiago and Matip who never / rarely play
i imagne the focus wil be concluding the VVD, TAA, Mo situations one way or the other
I do tend to agree with a common comment that a dedicated #6 and a CB with some experience who can stay fit wouldn't be a bad idea. But ultimately decisions like that I guess depend on what Slot sees in the squad, so who knows what will happen really.
I think part of retaining those 3 players mentioned will (in part) need a demonstration that we will keep improving the squad (ie buying the right new ones).
I think part of retaining those 3 players mentioned will (in part) need a demonstration that we will keep improving the squad (ie buying the right new ones).
worldwidewebs said:
Well, after watching the last couple of England games at least Slot won't have to bother experimenting with whether Trent can play in midfield
The question being where is he going to play him as we look a far more balanced side with Bradley at RB?To be fair to Trent, England are an absolute s
tshow that offer nothing going forward. Every time he gets the ball and looks up all he see's are a bunch of statues.SWoll said:
The question being where is he going to play him as we look a far more balanced side with Bradley at RB?
To be fair to Trent, England are an absolute stshow that offer nothing going forward. Every time he gets the ball and looks up all he see's are a bunch of statues.
The problem was that more often than not, he was one of the statues. On the question of where he plays, like you said, we were a better team when he wasn't playing. I'd cash in and use the money - could be another Coutinho momentTo be fair to Trent, England are an absolute s
tshow that offer nothing going forward. Every time he gets the ball and looks up all he see's are a bunch of statues.SWoll said:
The question being where is he going to play him as we look a far more balanced side with Bradley at RB?
To be fair to Trent, England are an absolute stshow that offer nothing going forward. Every time he gets the ball and looks up all he see's are a bunch of statues.
That's a fair comment about having no one on front of him to pass to. The three up front just didn't offer anything at all. TAA didn't offer anything, but then neither did anyone else.To be fair to Trent, England are an absolute s
tshow that offer nothing going forward. Every time he gets the ball and looks up all he see's are a bunch of statues.We looked a better side with Bradley as he did what Trent used to do - spent the matches bombing up and down the touchline with pace and energy. He's stopped doing that (maybe by design) and we miss that, even though for much of the season he did play pretty well.
worldwidewebs said:
The problem was that more often than not, he was one of the statues. On the question of where he plays, like you said, we were a better team when he wasn't playing. I'd cash in and use the money - could be another Coutinho moment
No. He's homegrown (which is increasingly important these days) He's vice captain. And he's got less to prove than Bradley as he's been at the top longer.CountyAFC said:
worldwidewebs said:
The problem was that more often than not, he was one of the statues. On the question of where he plays, like you said, we were a better team when he wasn't playing. I'd cash in and use the money - could be another Coutinho moment
No. He's homegrown (which is increasingly important these days) He's vice captain. And he's got less to prove than Bradley as he's been at the top longer.Mopey said:
No chance would I be selling Trent. He’s a generational talent- the problem with England is the flipping coaching. Not sure why we are on Trent’s back- when he was fit last season he was delivering.
Probably because we were more solid at the back with Bradley playing. But I agree, Trent IS a generational talent. Slot will be working on how to get the best out of him, no doubt. Fresh pair of experienced eyes certainly can't hurt with addressing this problem.We've long discussed the Trent issue.
He may be a "generational talent" (that's another debate) but only in one direction. And how to actually fit him in is a real challenge. Even then, you accept the downsides to benefit from the positives.
Southgate is doing him absolutely no favours at present. He's getting pelters for not being good at things we all know he's not good at. If he insists on using him as a full time midfielder I think he'd be better off using him as a sub, when opponents are tired and there's time and space to play in.
No idea how Slot will use him and I've absolutely no idea what the Ipswich game will look like in terms of team or tactics. It's a blank page, anything could happen.
He may be a "generational talent" (that's another debate) but only in one direction. And how to actually fit him in is a real challenge. Even then, you accept the downsides to benefit from the positives.
Southgate is doing him absolutely no favours at present. He's getting pelters for not being good at things we all know he's not good at. If he insists on using him as a full time midfielder I think he'd be better off using him as a sub, when opponents are tired and there's time and space to play in.
No idea how Slot will use him and I've absolutely no idea what the Ipswich game will look like in terms of team or tactics. It's a blank page, anything could happen.
Flip Martian said:
That was great ARNA.ferrisbueller said:
We've long discussed the Trent issue.
He may be a "generational talent" (that's another debate) but only in one direction. And how to actually fit him in is a real challenge. Even then, you accept the downsides to benefit from the positives.
YepHe may be a "generational talent" (that's another debate) but only in one direction. And how to actually fit him in is a real challenge. Even then, you accept the downsides to benefit from the positives.
The time when he was great was in the top form Klopp side with him and Robbo boning down the wings and Hendo slotting in behind either one to cover. If we don’t play that system where does he fit? He is not good enough at defending to be a regular RB and I’m not sure he can go into MF if he can’t learn the discipline.
Local lad and English only goes so far, hopefully AS can get the best out of him
Adam. said:
Yep
The time when he was great was in the top form Klopp side with him and Robbo boning down the wings and Hendo slotting in behind either one to cover. If we don’t play that system where does he fit? He is not good enough at defending to be a regular RB and I’m not sure he can go into MF if he can’t learn the discipline.
Local lad and English only goes so far, hopefully AS can get the best out of him
He was excellent in the inverted role for a good part of last seasonThe time when he was great was in the top form Klopp side with him and Robbo boning down the wings and Hendo slotting in behind either one to cover. If we don’t play that system where does he fit? He is not good enough at defending to be a regular RB and I’m not sure he can go into MF if he can’t learn the discipline.
Local lad and English only goes so far, hopefully AS can get the best out of him
Quite why we stopped playing the full back the way we used to is a mystery to me though. As it seemed to work and it was properly exciting football.
Maybe it's a statistics thing.
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