The Official Newcastle United Thread

The Official Newcastle United Thread

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fathomfive

10,008 posts

193 months

Saturday
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Yeah, they're not exactly the same but, debt in perpetuity (via stake selling etc) is still a dead end. The wheels will fall off at some point, won't they? If that's 10, 15, 20, 50 years time, does it really matter?

How sustainable do clubs need to be? Open question, i don't have an answer.

ellroy

7,122 posts

228 months

Saturday
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Inflation erodes the debt over time, coupled to an increasing value of the actual asset over time.

It’s a typical PE play. As long as you’ve got an asset that covers the interest payment with a strong income stream you can move it on essentially in perpetuity and rip more capital out over periods at much cheaper rates than divs/income.

Repayment of capital innit?

fathomfive

10,008 posts

193 months

Saturday
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Aye, mebeez.

Well, either way, they can fk right off, yeah?

Up the Mags!

DoctorX

7,363 posts

170 months

Saturday
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Elliott Anderson off to Forest.

ellroy

7,122 posts

228 months

Just reading that.

So much for the league wanting clubs to be more sustainable by bringing through their own talent. These ridiculous rules now mean that selling them makes the most sense.

Absolutely disgusting that it comes to this. Something has to change and quickly, this ‘big six’ protectionism cannot be allowed to continue.

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

These PSRs are just crazy.
We Forest have to get in 20m by the end of the day, yet go and buy Anderson from you for around 30m.
Ludicrous!
I guess we have some sales going through which will cover the 20m and we are amortizing Anderson over a long term contract?
It's all smoke and mirrors.

ellroy

7,122 posts

228 months

Exactly, you sell your winger to us for £30m, say, we sell you Armstrong for £30m & we’re both better off? In what economic universe does that make any sense?

Complete joke.

TameRacingDriver

18,160 posts

275 months

Chicken Chaser said:
Ratcliffe laying bare the belief that the "big 6" dictate what happens in the PL.

https://x.com/Magpie24_7/status/180699429405138164...
That bloke really is an absolute weapons grade bellend.

Agree with the others, absolute ste we're having to sell decent players to satisfy rules when we don't even need the fking money. This league is a joke.

ellroy

7,122 posts

228 months

Saw that earlier.

Uber, but no doubt at all that’s what he’s said is factually true. Been a cozy little club with the greedy 6 and the FA for years.

JurassicGTS

1,506 posts

198 months

ellroy said:
Exactly, you sell your winger to us for £30m, say, we sell you Armstrong for £30m & we’re both better off? In what economic universe does that make any sense?

Complete joke.
Utterly ludicrous ranting

Mannginger

9,225 posts

260 months

Tripps knackered. He was having a bit of a mare as well frankly.

Not optimal.

The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

Is Anderson any good? I presume he's not worth 30mio in the real world....

DoctorX

7,363 posts

170 months

The G Kid said:
Is Anderson any good? I presume he's not worth 30mio in the real world....
He’s decent enough. I think most fans said Noooooo!

Then saw the price and wished him luck.

castex

4,942 posts

276 months

Anderson is an exceptional talent who's been very unlucky with injury and selection. I really hope we have a buy-back clause.

Chicken Chaser

7,951 posts

227 months

I'm sad to see Anderson go. He's young, he's a Geordie and he's a good technically. He's stronger than he looks and is an intelligent player. I really hope he does well at Forest. Regardless of how much money he has gone for, it weakens us in depth, and I'd rather have seen Almiron leave.

J6542

1,767 posts

47 months

At least your left winger has no chance of coming back from the euros injured. He must have pissed on Southgate’s cornflakes or something

Mannginger

9,225 posts

260 months

Looks like we've finally agreed a number for Ashworth to join Man United. Just in time for PSR. Wonder how much we caved on to get the cash in time?

https://x.com/CraigHope_DM/status/1807682933638991...

Edit: Oh wait deadline was yesterday, ignore me then.

The G Kid

697 posts

126 months

Thanks for the info on Anderson. I'm not quite sure where he fits in to our team, but he's definitely more use to us than the Greek goalie we have sold to you!

Skyedriver

18,161 posts

285 months

Disappointed Anderson is going, he seems to be an up and coming improving player.
As for Anthony Gordon, next time GS asks him to come along he should cry injured (oh wait Shaw did that and got dragged along anyway.
Must be so frustrating for AG et al, sitting watching the dross they are currently playing, even if they do eek out a win eventually. At least we can go for a coffee, have a pee etc

ellroy

7,122 posts

228 months

Do wonder how much we got out of manure and how much the delay was due to their own ffp issues? Weirdly coincidental that they found a fiver down the back of the sofa the day after the deadline.

Wonder if that potentially made us have to sell Anderson? £20m & £33m for Minteh perhaps would’ve been enough?

Despicable club.

Edited by ellroy on Monday 1st July 14:18