The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Ascayman said:

You’re still in Europe just in the lesser comp

Maybe not. Ineos own Nice and 25% of Man U. They apparently can't both be in the same competition. As Nice qualified thru league position, Man U may have to drop into the Europa Conference and we'll get our place back.

[fourstardan]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Maybe not. Ineos own Nice and 25% of Man U. They apparently can't both be in the same competition. As Nice qualified thru league position, Man U may have to drop into the Europa Conference and we'll get our place back.

I can't see this happening myself, but stranger things have happened.

Apparently the cut off is Monday?

[GT03ROB]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Ascayman said:

You’re still in Europe just in the lesser comp

Maybe not. Ineos own Nice and 25% of Man U. They apparently can't both be in the same competition. As Nice qualified thru league position, Man U may have to drop into the Europa Conference and we'll get our place back.

I thought there was also still an issue lurking around compliance with UEFA financial fair play? The rules there are tighter than the PL.I'm sure I'd read somewhere that if they just qualified for Conference League, they may just walk away from the competition for the season, take a slap on the wrists & would be able to wipe the slate clean. Juventus apparently did something similar a couple of years back.

[fourstardan]

Looks like we are doing some business already.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4nn...

Hasn't look too shabby against us from memory.

[smn159]

Maresca confirmed then. Can't say that I'm hugely enthused by him and it seems as though we can look forward to a load more tippy tappy play from the back yawnfest stuff.

Probably coloured by thinking that Poch deserved another season after our strong finish though.

[968]

Worryingly they’ve said he will be a coach and have little input on recruitment. I agree Poch should have had another season.

[smn159]

968 said:

Worryingly they’ve said he will be a coach and have little input on recruitment. I agree Poch should have had another season.

I suspect that's why we parted company with Poch - he wanted (not unreasonably IMO) more of a say

Hard to understand why the club feels that they have a better idea of what the team needs than the coach - I guess that they're just looking at player stats and going for the ones where they think that they can add some value and flip them on in a couple of years rather than going all in to build a cohesive team for the present.

[aeropilot]

smn159 said:

968 said:

Worryingly they’ve said he will be a coach and have little input on recruitment. I agree Poch should have had another season.

I suspect that's why we parted company with Poch - he wanted (not unreasonably IMO) more of a say

Hard to understand why the club feels that they have a better idea of what the team needs than the coach - I guess that they're just looking at player stats and going for the ones where they think that they can add some value and flip them on in a couple of years rather than going all in to build a cohesive team for the present.

Yep, I'd say that's the likely scenario.

Plus, 5 year contract again like Potter, so he'll be on a nice payoff in 12 months time when they sack him......

Edited by aeropilot on Monday 3rd June 16:51

[fourstardan]

I did think he would be a target manager if LFC did well, he's studied under pep, it's the holy grail at the moment.

Let's get behind the new manager though this season, you all realise what a cluster fck our board is now and we'll just have to hope the football is played as per what we saw the last half of this season.

I think with our board structure we've moved into it earlier due to the Roman situation. Bin dippers have new backroom management along with Ratcliffe FC so let's see.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Diet Pep. Looks like real Pep, but isn't as good.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

[romft123]

5 year contract..............!

[jcremonini]

smn159 said:

968 said:

Worryingly they’ve said he will be a coach and have little input on recruitment. I agree Poch should have had another season.

I suspect that's why we parted company with Poch - he wanted (not unreasonably IMO) more of a say

Hard to understand why the club feels that they have a better idea of what the team needs than the coach - I guess that they're just looking at player stats and going for the ones where they think that they can add some value and flip them on in a couple of years rather than going all in to build a cohesive team for the present.

Because a manager does not allow the continuity that a coach does. Appoint a manager and allow them to dictate the players (and therefore the style of play) then you end up having to cycle through it all again when the next one comes in. Appoint a coach and ask them to coach whatever they are given then you just end up changing one person each time - the coach.

There is a distinction between a coach and a manager and the club have decided which model they want to use. Given the long term contracts the players have then it makes perfect sense. The only problem, of course, is we need to find a long term coach and stop chopping and changing like we do.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

romft123 said:

5 year contract..............!

It was being said on the radio today that the five years is dependent on agreed targets being hit in year 1, 2, 3 etc. So it's only going to cost us to sack him if he hits the target and the club still wants rid of him, maybe because he wants to pick the team or some other ego trip.

[fourstardan]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It was being said on the radio today that the five years is dependent on agreed targets being hit in year 1, 2, 3 etc. So it's only going to cost us to sack him if he hits the target and the club still wants rid of him, maybe because he wants to pick the team or some other ego trip.

Maybe this is why Poch went then? No Champions league so no extension.

[fourstardan]

First signing of the season in!

[Dblue]

968 said:

Worryingly they’ve said he will be a coach and have little input on recruitment. I agree Poch should have had another season.

This is received wisdom but I'm not sure why. Coaches, good ones , spend their time coaching, not constantly looking at potential signings . They certainly at best form opinions based on the "eye" test rather than data.

Jose was a great coach if rather pragmatic to be honest but he was no great judge of a player as far as I can see. Outing De Bruyne and Salah not the only complete fk ups regarding that.

I have only limited hope about how this will pan out but not because coaches should be unerringly trusted with recruitment.

[GT03ROB]

Just watching Belgium …. Lukaku looks the size of a Tongan prop forward, & couldn;t move his fat ass quick enough to avoid going offside

[smn159]

Pretty clear why we don't want him back

[GT03ROB]

smn159 said:

Pretty clear why we don't want him back

Quite kit man doesn’t have any shorts big enough!