Discussion
At the end of the day I like convertibles. You can't beat the view when driving abroad and when driving in speed camera Britain you can enjoy going slowly. I'm also a great admirer of Lotus's work.
So do I keep the Tuscan and get an Evora S or keep the Elise and get a V12 Vantage? Yes it's a nice problem to have but right now it's a stalemate. What would you do?
So do I keep the Tuscan and get an Evora S or keep the Elise and get a V12 Vantage? Yes it's a nice problem to have but right now it's a stalemate. What would you do?
justin220 said:
^I don't think there will ever be a targa.
Tough choice, but a nice kne to have! I think I'd pick the Aston and Elise
Also agree with Justin that there will not be a convertible/targa version of the Evora from what I have also heard (95% sure on that).Tough choice, but a nice kne to have! I think I'd pick the Aston and Elise
Personally I would also go for the V12 Vantage as its an iconic car and looks lovely (especially in Morning Frost White).
Cheers
George
A great dilemma to have. I must admit to considering a fairly new V8 Vantage in my decision making process: I had discounted the V12 as being too expensive for my pockets.
However (whilst not wanting to be too philosophical about things) I think we often worship at the altar of more power, bigger engine, faster 0-60 times must be best. I am reminded of my fairly recent biking days and the almost annual decision making process of what toy to consider. It always got bigger and more prestigious and went through Daytonas, Benellis, Fireblades and MV Agustas. Whilst they were all fantastic and great for the ego: most of my riding was the ubiquitous sunday morning thrash throught the Dales with bacon butties at Hawes and Devils Bridge and the most fun was had by the guys on the well sorted 600cc bikes who were riding hard to keep up with the bigger ccs. They had a ball: bouncing their bikes off the rev limiter and late braking to keep up!
In reality I suspect the guys who have NA Evoras with the CR boxes will enjoy themselves much more using the full potential of their cars v being scared of the penalties of over exuberance! Well certainly on the UK roads with the restrictions and traffic.
At the end of the day 'you pays your money and takes your choice': I suspect you will have lots of fun whatever you choose. Based on my smile after an extended test drive in the Evora I know I can justify where my money has gone: even though I could have spent on much more power!
Enjoy making your decision: and by the way do you know when the Evora S's are in dealerships?
However (whilst not wanting to be too philosophical about things) I think we often worship at the altar of more power, bigger engine, faster 0-60 times must be best. I am reminded of my fairly recent biking days and the almost annual decision making process of what toy to consider. It always got bigger and more prestigious and went through Daytonas, Benellis, Fireblades and MV Agustas. Whilst they were all fantastic and great for the ego: most of my riding was the ubiquitous sunday morning thrash throught the Dales with bacon butties at Hawes and Devils Bridge and the most fun was had by the guys on the well sorted 600cc bikes who were riding hard to keep up with the bigger ccs. They had a ball: bouncing their bikes off the rev limiter and late braking to keep up!
In reality I suspect the guys who have NA Evoras with the CR boxes will enjoy themselves much more using the full potential of their cars v being scared of the penalties of over exuberance! Well certainly on the UK roads with the restrictions and traffic.
At the end of the day 'you pays your money and takes your choice': I suspect you will have lots of fun whatever you choose. Based on my smile after an extended test drive in the Evora I know I can justify where my money has gone: even though I could have spent on much more power!
Enjoy making your decision: and by the way do you know when the Evora S's are in dealerships?
C43 said:
I would have thought he Aston and Evora are for different markets. The Aston for posing and the Evora for driving quickly.
They are different. The Evora is much better suited to daily use. In some respects, (steering, ride, dynamic polish) the Evora is actually superior from a pure driving point of view. It's also more understated. The problem is that the V12 Vantage is a fine drivers car in its own right, offers access to a higher level of performance (and a V12 engine) and with used prices well under £100k, not a world away from a high spec new Evora S. Hence the dilemma!08sag said:
Enjoy making your decision: and by the way do you know when the Evora S's are in dealerships?
My local dealer (Bell & Colvill) took delivery of their S demo car yesterday (Thu) so reckon most UK dealers are getting them this and next week. B&C test drives start on 4 Dec - I'm booked in for 9am 
I do not know where you are based but you could always have a back to back test drive. My local Lotus Dealership in Edinburgh has Lotus/Aston a walk across the car park (Murray Motor Company). If you are Scotland based then have a chat to Graeme (Lotus) or Roger (Aston) as I am sure they will be happy to sort you out with a back to back test drive.
I suspect that Graeme will have his Evora S demo soon or maybe right now.
I also considered getting a V8 Vantage a while back, but the servicing costs put me off (as its one thing buying an Aston and another with the ongoing maintenance costs). Hence more than happy trading my Elise 111R in for my Evora.
Cheers George
I suspect that Graeme will have his Evora S demo soon or maybe right now.
I also considered getting a V8 Vantage a while back, but the servicing costs put me off (as its one thing buying an Aston and another with the ongoing maintenance costs). Hence more than happy trading my Elise 111R in for my Evora.
Cheers George
Glad to see you're still not mincing words DJC.
If they get round to an open Evora, I'm hoping for a removable hard top. Not so keen on the (heavy) electric folding roof that's been suggested. They reckon buyers at this price are too lazy to get out and take the roof off.
Either way I'm not sure I can wait 'til then. I need a convertible in my life but right now I have two so a hard top Evora S for everyday use would be pretty special.
Sagaris 4.5 must be pretty special, I'll admit. I think the tuscan has plenty to deal with as standard but the Saggy was always crying out for more.
Actually I think the V12 Vantage is very much a 'posh' Sagaris. Those who look down on TVR won't realise that I mean that as a compliment!
I'm also aware that many ex-TVR owners have moved on to Astons and many of them, to their surprise, end up looking back on TVR ownership in a more positive light. It's easy to assume that a more expensive car would be better in every way. It doesn't always (or often) work out to be the case. I know. Owning a Ferrari was probably the biggest automotive disappointment to date.
But that big hearted V12 is very special and engines like that won't be available or even allowed for that much longer...
If they get round to an open Evora, I'm hoping for a removable hard top. Not so keen on the (heavy) electric folding roof that's been suggested. They reckon buyers at this price are too lazy to get out and take the roof off.
Either way I'm not sure I can wait 'til then. I need a convertible in my life but right now I have two so a hard top Evora S for everyday use would be pretty special.
Sagaris 4.5 must be pretty special, I'll admit. I think the tuscan has plenty to deal with as standard but the Saggy was always crying out for more.
Actually I think the V12 Vantage is very much a 'posh' Sagaris. Those who look down on TVR won't realise that I mean that as a compliment!
I'm also aware that many ex-TVR owners have moved on to Astons and many of them, to their surprise, end up looking back on TVR ownership in a more positive light. It's easy to assume that a more expensive car would be better in every way. It doesn't always (or often) work out to be the case. I know. Owning a Ferrari was probably the biggest automotive disappointment to date.
But that big hearted V12 is very special and engines like that won't be available or even allowed for that much longer...
Well before they did the V12 Vantage, I actually looked at the Vanq. I see that as a grown up Sagaris, esp the S.
The Vantage just leaves me cold. I really want to like the V12 one and tried initially, but its just leaves me a little bored now. I dont like the interior for a start, its trying to hard to be "jewel like" and thats just poncy.
There is an honest about the Vanq that isnt in the later cars. It knows it is compromised, it knows it is old scool and its a bruiser. Love it.
The Vantage just leaves me cold. I really want to like the V12 one and tried initially, but its just leaves me a little bored now. I dont like the interior for a start, its trying to hard to be "jewel like" and thats just poncy.
There is an honest about the Vanq that isnt in the later cars. It knows it is compromised, it knows it is old scool and its a bruiser. Love it.
So in the end a deal on a nearly new v12v got the better of me. There's no question that the evora would make a much better daily driver. For one thing there would be far less stress about leaving it parked for a while. I also know with certainty that in some areas of the driving experience (steering, ride, composure, the Evora is actually superior. I'd have loved buying one new and visiting the factory too. But from a 'you only live once basis' the lure of a 510bhp V12 (I've always wanted a V12 and they may not be around much longer) was just too strong in the end. Particularly given someone else has already taken out some of the monumental depreciation for you. Still, I bet it still costs me more than the evora would have.
So if ever I cross paths with an Evo S on the roads there will always be a small pang of regret as I give you a big thumbs up and flash the lights. Fortunately the remedy will be close at hand or rather just under my right foot!
So if ever I cross paths with an Evo S on the roads there will always be a small pang of regret as I give you a big thumbs up and flash the lights. Fortunately the remedy will be close at hand or rather just under my right foot!
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