Evora for sale. Advice please
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Hi there all
I am selling my Cerbera to get something slightly smaller that fits the garage with all our other junk.
I have seen this car http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
I think this has been for a sale with a couple of dealers on here ? Does anyone know anything about it ?
I assume the Toyota engine is good for the miles, but what about the rest of the car ?
Thoughts and advice please ?
I assume I may be better to spend 4k more for a low mileage one ?
Cheers
Dazza
I am selling my Cerbera to get something slightly smaller that fits the garage with all our other junk.
I have seen this car http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
I think this has been for a sale with a couple of dealers on here ? Does anyone know anything about it ?
I assume the Toyota engine is good for the miles, but what about the rest of the car ?
Thoughts and advice please ?
I assume I may be better to spend 4k more for a low mileage one ?
Cheers
Dazza
I believe it's an ex-Lotus car that's done mainly motorway miles. If you were going to keep it a long time then it might be worth a punt but you'd clearly struggle to sell it if you want to change it in a year or so.
I'd personally spend the extra money and get a low mileage car that could be sold easily at a later date.
I'd personally spend the extra money and get a low mileage car that could be sold easily at a later date.
There haven't been any significant issues with any of the cars and with higher miles anything that may have needed attention will have been long since sorted. Generally it seems they are very reliable. You could spend a bit more but then it depends if you are going to pile the miles on it or not. If not, then over time it'll probably fall into line with other cars after a few years. Don't forget the haggle factor, I wouldn't be surprised to see £1-2k off that.
Its got the right packs and although it is a 2+0 the rear seats on any 2+2 are utterless uselss and are essentially just nicley lined luggage space.
Its got the right packs and although it is a 2+0 the rear seats on any 2+2 are utterless uselss and are essentially just nicley lined luggage space.
Edited by Frimley111R on Saturday 11th May 10:56
Inspected this car in the flesh when I sold the dealer mine. It is very tidy looking...they have done a good job of detailing it. I have bought and sold two Lotus cars from and to this dealer...they are very good at sorting every niggle...they deal with Bentley customers FFS...they are used to fussiness. They also do give good discounts...I've had over 10% before.
I'd say, what have you got to lose...it will come with a one year cast iron warranty too. Over time, if you only intend to put a few thousand a year on it, the mileage will even out compared to others on the market. It will only continue to depreciate fast if you put another 10K pa on it I reckon.
I'd say, what have you got to lose...it will come with a one year cast iron warranty too. Over time, if you only intend to put a few thousand a year on it, the mileage will even out compared to others on the market. It will only continue to depreciate fast if you put another 10K pa on it I reckon.
Why does a car that has only done 67000 miles need a clutch change?...other than through bad driving. There is a factory upgrade for a improved clutch slave cylinder which does not suffer from heat soak...it would be worth finding out because it is a big job, but covered under manufacturers warranty.
The slave cylinder isn't a big job, a few hours tops. Clutch is a whole new ball game just had mine done whilst the engine was out under warranty to replace the gear box sync and its a very big job - 35 hours ish so seemed sensible to put a whole new clutch assembly in whilst the engine was out even though old one had only done 14k
The clutches used don't contain much material compared to other clutch friction plates I have seen they are rather thin.
The clutches used don't contain much material compared to other clutch friction plates I have seen they are rather thin.
P155flaps said:
The slave cylinder isn't a big job, a few hours tops. Clutch is a whole new ball game just had mine done whilst the engine was out under warranty to replace the gear box sync and its a very big job - 35 hours ish so seemed sensible to put a whole new clutch assembly in whilst the engine was out even though old one had only done 14k
The clutches used don't contain much material compared to other clutch friction plates I have seen they are rather thin.
Forget everything I have ever said. This pic makes me glad mine has gone. This pic scares me to death.The clutches used don't contain much material compared to other clutch friction plates I have seen they are rather thin.
Lotusevoraboy said:
Forget everything I have ever said. This pic makes me glad mine has gone. This pic scares me to death.
Why? Getting to that stage isn't really that much work, it's just the rear clamshell that's been removed there and should take about 2 hours according to the Labour Time Guide.It's what comes after it which racks up the hours if you're doing the clutch.
What C43 said l, any mid engine car would be the same. OP I think key thing is to enquire about service records to date and bare in mind that if the clutch hasn't been done it may need replacing in x miles at a cost of circa £3kish.
It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Evora is a very cheap car to run with engine and clutch work being expensive only because of labour, as is any mid engined car.
It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Evora is a very cheap car to run with engine and clutch work being expensive only because of labour, as is any mid engined car.
P155flaps said:
What C43 said l, any mid engine car would be the same. OP I think key thing is to enquire about service records to date and bare in mind that if the clutch hasn't been done it may need replacing in x miles at a cost of circa £3kish.
It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Same with almost all 'interesting' cars to be honest - just look at the costs of an E46 M3 SMG gearbox, or a big failure on a Boxster engine. Hell I had a few things needing doing on the Elise at the same time and came away with a £4k bill.It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Like you say at least with the Evora the mechanicals are, relatively speaking, quite cheap. The labour can add up, but compared to some cars out their the risks are actually quite low.
In some ways I'm surprised the IPS hasn't been more popular if people are that worried about the clutch - the manual shift is often criticised and the IPS box, while not class leading in terms of speedisn't bad and is smoother than my dads V8 Vantage Speedshift box which I didn't really care for, particularly when it came to low speed manoeuvring. Add in the fact that in S form the IPS sneaks under the 225g/km tax band and it makes a decent case for itself.
Thorburn said:
P155flaps said:
What C43 said l, any mid engine car would be the same. OP I think key thing is to enquire about service records to date and bare in mind that if the clutch hasn't been done it may need replacing in x miles at a cost of circa £3kish.
It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Same with almost all 'interesting' cars to be honest - just look at the costs of an E46 M3 SMG gearbox, or a big failure on a Boxster engine. Hell I had a few things needing doing on the Elise at the same time and came away with a £4k bill.It's def worth going into the car with eyes open as to possible worst case costs. My pre Evora shortlist included an V8V and anyone who has seen any repair bills for those will know they can be eye watering.
Like you say at least with the Evora the mechanicals are, relatively speaking, quite cheap. The labour can add up, but compared to some cars out their the risks are actually quite low.
In some ways I'm surprised the IPS hasn't been more popular if people are that worried about the clutch - the manual shift is often criticised and the IPS box, while not class leading in terms of speedisn't bad and is smoother than my dads V8 Vantage Speedshift box which I didn't really care for, particularly when it came to low speed manoeuvring. Add in the fact that in S form the IPS sneaks under the 225g/km tax band and it makes a decent case for itself.
Thorburn said:
Lotusevoraboy said:
Forget everything I have ever said. This pic makes me glad mine has gone. This pic scares me to death.
Why? Getting to that stage isn't really that much work, it's just the rear clamshell that's been removed there and should take about 2 hours according to the Labour Time Guide.It's what comes after it which racks up the hours if you're doing the clutch.
Lotusevoraboy said:
Forget everything I have ever said. This pic makes me glad mine has gone. This pic scares me to death.
The back and front ends are made to be removed very easily. Makes it easier to repair them. When I visited the Lotus factory to see the Evoras being made, we had quite a lot of technical detail given on how the chassis where designed etc., and seeing a car in that condition is nothing really 
Added - now that I remember, I've seen cars stripped like that at Castle and Paul mentioned it was fairly simple to get them separated like that.
Thorburn said:
Why? Getting to that stage isn't really that much work, it's just the rear clamshell that's been removed there and should take about 2 hours according to the Labour Time Guide.
It's what comes after it which racks up the hours if you're doing the clutch.
Labour time guide, what is that?It's what comes after it which racks up the hours if you're doing the clutch.
I'm trying to get hold of some step by step instructions to remove the rear clam, and other body panels to carry out a paint job.
Does the labour time guide have this info and if so do you know where I can get my hands on one?
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