Exercise idea - comments, please
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Is there much benefit in hanging from a pull up bar and running in the air for 30 seconds at a time, lifing knees up alternately? I can't decide if it's really working the core or just the act of trying to stop myself swinging around is working the core and it's just a silly waste of time. Perhaps if I use ankle weights? Any aerobic benefit?
Perhaps if it was part of a circuit of exercises it might be ok.
As someone who likes to jog, rather then run, I've discovered that incorporating some hills in my route has the added advantage of increasing my core strength significantly. As you get used to it you'll find that you use your arms and core to pull you up the gradients. Start off by doing a 20 minute route a day for fourteen days solid and see how quickly you get fit. Walk a bit if you need to until you become fitter. I've got a nice 6 mile route I do now about three times a week, takes 50 mins. For me, its max gain for min effort, it's not a balls ache, and I enjoy it, so I'm more likely to keep it up. In six weeks of this, I reckon I must have lost a stone and a half in fat, but gained half a stone in muscle. Works for me!
As someone who likes to jog, rather then run, I've discovered that incorporating some hills in my route has the added advantage of increasing my core strength significantly. As you get used to it you'll find that you use your arms and core to pull you up the gradients. Start off by doing a 20 minute route a day for fourteen days solid and see how quickly you get fit. Walk a bit if you need to until you become fitter. I've got a nice 6 mile route I do now about three times a week, takes 50 mins. For me, its max gain for min effort, it's not a balls ache, and I enjoy it, so I'm more likely to keep it up. In six weeks of this, I reckon I must have lost a stone and a half in fat, but gained half a stone in muscle. Works for me!

No.
Also you'll look fairly silly and it will probably hurt your shoulder joints.
Hanging off something and working core = front/rear levers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3GS7zj9iQ
Also you'll look fairly silly and it will probably hurt your shoulder joints.
Hanging off something and working core = front/rear levers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3GS7zj9iQ
goldblum said:
No.
Also you'll look fairly silly and it will probably hurt your shoulder joints.
Hanging off something and working core = front/rear levers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3GS7zj9iQ
It does look silly, yes, but will it really hurt my shoulders? (Bear in mind that I climb regularly so my shoulders are used to taking pressure at different angles where "form" isn't always possible even if technique (eg three points of contact, balanced, flagging) is good due to the placement of the holds.)Also you'll look fairly silly and it will probably hurt your shoulder joints.
Hanging off something and working core = front/rear levers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3GS7zj9iQ
I tried a front lever and hurt my back. Thanks but I need to work up to it. I already do leg raises; just wanted to do something different.
Oh, I've been doing diagonal leg raises at the climbing centre, which is great for training the obliques. Can be tricky finding big enough holds to hang off for 30 seconds at a time, mind, plus enough space underneath to move the legs - needs to be an overhang about 2m off the ground that allows me to bring my legs up and touch the roof with my feet together at each side.
Edited by ShadownINja on Monday 22 November 08:54
Morba said:
What are you actually trying to do?
Work core or work grip?
Both, really. As I say, I just want to try different things. My favouritist thing is doing pull ups and leg raises at the same time, bringing feet up to bar height; but when I am out of power to pull up, I can often still hang a bit longer so...Work core or work grip?
Oh yes I forgot about your climbing:if you are hanging off something and not engaging your shoulder/back muscles then your bodyweight is taken
by the shoulder joints,which can hurt.But you're probably used to it.
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Hanging leg raises are also very good core exercises providing your technique is sound,and are a progression for FL's.
This is nice...when he gets tired he goes to knees..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ysNevIv0w
by the shoulder joints,which can hurt.But you're probably used to it.
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Hanging leg raises are also very good core exercises providing your technique is sound,and are a progression for FL's.
This is nice...when he gets tired he goes to knees..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ysNevIv0w
goldblum said:
if you are hanging off something and not engaging your shoulder/back muscles then your bodyweight is taken by the shoulder joints,which can hurt.But you're probably used to it.
Yeah, you're right. I never fully disengage the muscles around that area. Learnt the hard way...goldblum said:
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Surprisingly?? I wasn't surprised they are hard. I will do it eventually but I need to work out how not to get back pain from doing it. Any thoughts?PS This is nicer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc75lpEIkbo

Edited by ShadownINja on Monday 22 November 15:15
ShadownINja said:
goldblum said:
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Surprisingly?? I wasn't surprised they are hard. I will do it eventually but I need to work out how not to get back pain from doing it. Any thoughts?PS This is nicer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc75lpEIkbo

Yep,much nicer.Lol
goldblum said:
ShadownINja said:
goldblum said:
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Surprisingly?? I wasn't surprised they are hard. I will do it eventually but I need to work out how not to get back pain from doing it. Any thoughts?PS This is nicer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc75lpEIkbo

Yep,much nicer.Lol

Lower back just above pelvic bone.
I found a video on youtube that goes through different exercises to train the body so I'll see how I get on. Leg raises from floor to horizontal, leg raises from floor to bar, horizontal legs to bar, leg raises from bar upwards, leg raises from floor -> bar -> above bar -> horizontal -> floor.
Do I trust my portable pull up bar?

ShadownINja said:
goldblum said:
ShadownINja said:
goldblum said:
Front Levers are surprisingly hard aren't they but well done for having a go.
Surprisingly?? I wasn't surprised they are hard. I will do it eventually but I need to work out how not to get back pain from doing it. Any thoughts?PS This is nicer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc75lpEIkbo

Yep,much nicer.Lol

Lower back just above pelvic bone.
I found a video on youtube that goes through different exercises to train the body so I'll see how I get on. Leg raises from floor to horizontal, leg raises from floor to bar, horizontal legs to bar, leg raises from bar upwards, leg raises from floor -> bar -> above bar -> horizontal -> floor.
Do I trust my portable pull up bar?

Sore lower back is common with leg raises.
Portable pull up bar?...
goldblum said:
Work your leg raises and as you get stronger less strain will be placed on your lower back.Perfect technique required.
Sore lower back is common with leg raises.
Portable pull up bar?...
Ah, right, so I am not doing anything wrong as such but perhaps pushing too hard as my body isn't quite ready for a full-on lever.Sore lower back is common with leg raises.
Portable pull up bar?...
http://www.chinups.co.uk/
Mine, with various attachments. Slings (ropes) allow me to do horizontal rows.
Can hold up to 20 stones, according to the inventor!
Has this attached to the wooden board now:

(Stolen photo.)
Edited by ShadownINja on Monday 22 November 18:59
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