MSG and chest pain

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Cogcog

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11,827 posts

242 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Has anybody had chest pains as a result of too much MSG?

My OH has had several bouts of night time chest pain resulting in trips to A&E. She had one last year resulting in an ambulance trip to hospital, one about 2 months ago when I took her to A&E, and one last night which she suffered through until the pain stopped at abot 6am this morning. The pain normally lasts 3-5 hours and is so severe that even the low dose morphine wasn't having an effect last time.

She has had all the tests including blood tests, ECG and a treadmill test. \All clear. After the July bout and the tests the only thing they thought it might be is a stomach reflex and gave her a month of tablets to calm the reflex.

When it starting in the early hours of this morning I had a sense of Deja Vu as it seems to happen on a Sunday night. I wonder now if it is sensitivity to MSG as we periodically eat a hearty Sunday lunch at the local Chinese buffet. We did so yesterday. Google says there is no research linking MSG to the symptoms but patients have reported a host of symptoms, including chest pain.


markcoznottz

7,155 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Cogcog said:
Has anybody had chest pains as a result of too much MSG?

My OH has had several bouts of night time chest pain resulting in trips to A&E. She had one last year resulting in an ambulance trip to hospital, one about 2 months ago when I took her to A&E, and one last night which she suffered through until the pain stopped at abot 6am this morning. The pain normally lasts 3-5 hours and is so severe that even the low dose morphine wasn't having an effect last time.

She has had all the tests including blood tests, ECG and a treadmill test. \All clear. After the July bout and the tests the only thing they thought it might be is a stomach reflex and gave her a month of tablets to calm the reflex.

When it starting in the early hours of this morning I had a sense of Deja Vu as it seems to happen on a Sunday night. I wonder now if it is sensitivity to MSG as we periodically eat a hearty Sunday lunch at the local Chinese buffet. We did so yesterday. Google says there is no research linking MSG to the symptoms but patients have reported a host of symptoms, including chest pain.
I need to drink LOADS of water after iv had a chinese nowdays, wonder if its because of MSG.

goldblum

10,272 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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markcoznottz said:
Cogcog said:
Has anybody had chest pains as a result of too much MSG?

My OH has had several bouts of night time chest pain resulting in trips to A&E. She had one last year resulting in an ambulance trip to hospital, one about 2 months ago when I took her to A&E, and one last night which she suffered through until the pain stopped at abot 6am this morning. The pain normally lasts 3-5 hours and is so severe that even the low dose morphine wasn't having an effect last time.

She has had all the tests including blood tests, ECG and a treadmill test. \All clear. After the July bout and the tests the only thing they thought it might be is a stomach reflex and gave her a month of tablets to calm the reflex.

When it starting in the early hours of this morning I had a sense of Deja Vu as it seems to happen on a Sunday night. I wonder now if it is sensitivity to MSG as we periodically eat a hearty Sunday lunch at the local Chinese buffet. We did so yesterday. Google says there is no research linking MSG to the symptoms but patients have reported a host of symptoms, including chest pain.
I need to drink LOADS of water after iv had a chinese nowdays, wonder if its because of MSG.
Soy sauce is loaded with it,but there are healthier Chinese meal options..Wok 2 Go is quite clean,apparently.When I asked if there was any MSG

in their food they replied not..

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.

riosyd

614 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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It might be gallstones/gall bladder issues due to the high fat content of the meal.

goldblum

10,272 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.
Just because it's not listed as an ingredient doesn't mean it's not there...Lol.


drakart

1,738 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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There was a show on TV that proved that it wasnt MSG that made people sick/ill. The subjects were given msg free food which they thought contained it. They were still feeling ill. Think the programme was E numbers (not too sure though)

jessica

6,321 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Gall stones sometimes cause very severe chest pain. Right in the middle of the chest from front to back or vica versa. They actually make you feel very nausious.
Although MSG can give you a racing heart and chest pains.
When i eat MSG is makes my insides very sore for a couple of days, including my mouth.......

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.
Just because it's not listed as an ingredient doesn't mean it's not there...Lol.
That's also utter rubbish. From the EU website:

"The list of ingredients, preceded by the word "Ingredients", must show all ingredients in descending order of weight"

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/consumers/p...

Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 28th September 20:59

goldblum

10,272 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.
Just because it's not listed as an ingredient doesn't mean it's not there...Lol.
That's also utter rubbish. From the EU website:

"The list of ingredients, preceded by the word "Ingredients", must show all ingredients in descending order of weight"

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/consumers/p...

Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 28th September 20:59
How naive you are.If you're in London or Manchester take a wander into Chinatown and a foodshop/market.Have a look.

Most Chinese restaurants order from the same wholesale suppliers and you can't even decipher half of the ingredients.

You don't really think they're in the slightest bit bothered by some EU edict?

Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 28th September 21:18

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.
Just because it's not listed as an ingredient doesn't mean it's not there...Lol.
That's also utter rubbish. From the EU website:

"The list of ingredients, preceded by the word "Ingredients", must show all ingredients in descending order of weight"

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/consumers/p...

Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 28th September 20:59
How naive you are.If you're in London or Manchester take a wander into Chinatown and a foodshop/market.Have a look.

Most Chinese restaurants order from the same wholesale suppliers and you can't even decipher half of the ingredients.

You don't really think they're in the slightest bit bothered by some EU edict?

Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 28th September 21:18
Yep you're right rolleyes

goldblum

10,272 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Silver993tt said:
goldblum said:
Soy sauce is loaded with it
No it isn't. It is however loaded with salt. I've never seen MSG as an ingredient to any soy sauce that I've bought - and I always read the ingredients of anything I buy.
Just because it's not listed as an ingredient doesn't mean it's not there...Lol.
That's also utter rubbish. From the EU website:

"The list of ingredients, preceded by the word "Ingredients", must show all ingredients in descending order of weight"

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/consumers/p...

Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 28th September 20:59
How naive you are.If you're in London or Manchester take a wander into Chinatown and a foodshop/market.Have a look.

Most Chinese restaurants order from the same wholesale suppliers and you can't even decipher half of the ingredients.

You don't really think they're in the slightest bit bothered by some EU edict?

Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 28th September 21:18
Yep you're right rolleyes
Did you know Soy sauce contains natural MSG? Ever seen that written on the side of a soy sauce bottle?

grumbledoak

31,841 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Er? If I thought a meal had put me in A&E once I'd never have returned. Eat something else.

Though I'd imagine it's more the salt and fat content.

milu

2,417 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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According to the program referred to above,it's Glutamate which some people have a reaction to.
This occurs naturally in lots of foods ,not unhealthy ones either.

Their conclusion was MSG comes in for lots of uncalled for criticism .

Cogcog

Original Poster:

11,827 posts

242 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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So the consensus is we have no consesus?

I will be interested to see if the pain returns after the next meal, at least that is easy to avoid.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

189 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Interesting point about the ingredients listed on Chinese products - many of which, especially the sauces, are not in English.

Is this even lawful?

bucksmanuk

2,331 posts

177 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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"Gall stones sometimes cause very severe chest pain. Right in the middle of the chest from front to back or vice versa. They actually make you feel very nauseous."
Yes, indeed, they do!- this described my symptoms exactly. I had this on and off for 3 years. So no more gall bladder for me, and 4 small scars and a massive one (the keyhole failed) as a result. No more tasty but fatty stuff for me.