protein in the mornings

[MattMoore]

Afternoon all.
Have recently joined the gym and have had an eating plan made for me. Everything else is going fine apart from brekkie. Bowl of porridge followed by 2 scrambled eggs. My stomach doesn't appreciate this and I feel sick for the next couple of hours. What else can I have for my morning protein kick?

[goldblum]

MattMoore said:

Afternoon all.
Have recently joined the gym and have had an eating plan made for me. Everything else is going fine apart from brekkie. Bowl of porridge followed by 2 scrambled eggs. My stomach doesn't appreciate this and I feel sick for the next couple of hours. What else can I have for my morning protein kick?

You don't really need protein in the a.m.,it's best taken the night before to aid muscle repair/recovery.

Add some complex carbs like a banana to your breakfast,or a small amount of raisins to your porridge.

[Morba]

Protein only at night?

OP- you could have a shake if eggs don't do it for you

[Ordinary_Chap]

I usually have a shake (myprotein) with breakfast which is not only nice but means I know I'm starting the day well.

The only time I don't always bother is if I'm some egg combo.

[ShadownINja]

If you've only started going to the gym (and assuming you haven't been training at home and are a competitive athlete already), do you really need to worry about your protein intake?

Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 25th September 16:10

[Morba]

He's had a diet plan done for him which probably has protein in each meal through the day, which is no bad thing.

[goldblum]

Morba said:

He's had a diet plan done for him which probably has protein in each meal through the day, which is no bad thing.

If he's doing a lot of weights he needs enough protein.The OP merely states he's 'joined a gym'.

If he has more protein than he needs he will be consuming excess calories and will put on fat,not muscle.

[Morba]

Talk about making assumptions!

If the pt/nutritionist has any sense they would have worked out total calorific needs and made the protein content relevant to the persons goals.
So i don't see what you are blabbering on about.
Do you think he should have a tiny amount of protein a day?
Do you know that having higher protein intake can also aid fat loss? It's not just for building muscle.

Edited by Morba on Saturday 25th September 16:49

[goldblum]

Morba said:

Talk about making assumptions!

If the pt/nutritionist has any sense they would have worked out total calorific needs and made the protein content relevant to the persons goals.
So i don't see what you are blabbering on about.
Do you think he should have a tiny amount of protein a day?
Do you know that having higher protein intake can also aid fat loss? It's not just for building muscle.

Edited by Morba on Saturday 25th September 16:49

Calm down mate. 'kinell,you'll give yourself high blood pressure! Lol.

[Morba]

Im perfectly calm, if anything I'm chuckling at your odd posts

[jimbobsimmonds]

goldblum said:

Morba said:

He's had a diet plan done for him which probably has protein in each meal through the day, which is no bad thing.

If he's doing a lot of weights he needs enough protein.The OP merely states he's 'joined a gym'.

If he has more protein than he needs he will be consuming excess calories and will put on fat,not muscle.

by joining a gym i assume he is doing maybe 45 minutes sto an hour of weights and maybe 15 minutes of cardio (feel free to correct me)...

personal recommendation is to have 30g of protein (typically one scoop) right after you finish training and maybe throw another scoop in somewhere else in the day (especially if there is a large gap between meals)... a lot of packaging will say have 2 scoops at a time, 3 times a day (wonder if its to get you to buy more... worth a thought) maybe if you are an 18 stone body builder but im about 12 stone and pretty muscular and im getting by fine on 2 scoops a day on top of my high protein meals...

a lot of people forget that protein are calories, but if you are only consuming an extra 250 calories through a couple of small protein shakes im sure this is being mitigated by the fact you are now going to the gym!

[Phooey]

drink a pint of semi-skimmed milk with your porridge/cereal

[MattMoore]

Thanks for the replies so far. Seems I didn't detail everything enough. I joined the gym to lose weight, I need to lose approx 6 stone to be my ideal weight calculated from a bodyfat test. The trainer I am working with has given me a diet plan with 5 meals a day. What I am currently doing is 40 min weights followed by 20 min cardio. I am still in 2 minds whether or not these are the correct ratio to maximize my weight loss, but I am just sticking to the plan.
I had thought about protein supplements but there is such a vast ammount of conflicting evidence for newbies.

Thanks

[Ordinary_Chap]

MattMoore said:

Thanks for the replies so far. Seems I didn't detail everything enough. I joined the gym to lose weight, I need to lose approx 6 stone to be my ideal weight calculated from a bodyfat test. The trainer I am working with has given me a diet plan with 5 meals a day. What I am currently doing is 40 min weights followed by 20 min cardio. I am still in 2 minds whether or not these are the correct ratio to maximize my weight loss, but I am just sticking to the plan.
I had thought about protein supplements but there is such a vast ammount of conflicting evidence for newbies.

Thanks

I lost several stone on my recent journey and I did it doing a very similar plan to yours. I was very out of shape too. It's on the 2nd/3rd page in this section of the forum if you're interested.

I focused on weights and did some HIIT training afterwards.

I'm a firm believer in using weights to lose fat, there are so many reasons for this.

And high levels are protein are an absolute must for someone doing a lot of weight training, trust your trainer he/she sounds like they know what they are doing.

Edited by Ordinary_Chap on Saturday 25th September 23:55

[Morba]

Agreed, give it a go and enjoy the process. When losses start to plateau your PT will look at changing things up

[MattMoore]

Ordinary chap, I had read your challenge thread a few days ago. Very inspiring stuff and congratulations on the results. The workout plan you do is very similar to what my pt come up with. But using machines instead of barbells for now. I haven't been allowing cardio days in between, so this is something I probably should start.
Getting back to my original question, can you recommend a protein supplement? Would it be better to have this before or after the gym? I usually hit the gym at 6:30 am.

Thanks

[Morba]

Ask your pt. See what he says.

Personally I wouldn't have anything pre session other than a strong black coffee.

[Ordinary_Chap]

MattMoore said:

Ordinary chap, I had read your challenge thread a few days ago. Very inspiring stuff and congratulations on the results. The workout plan you do is very similar to what my pt come up with. But using machines instead of barbells for now. I haven't been allowing cardio days in between, so this is something I probably should start.
Getting back to my original question, can you recommend a protein supplement? Would it be better to have this before or after the gym? I usually hit the gym at 6:30 am.

Thanks

Thanks Matt.

I use myprotein.co.uk because it's cheap, high quality and tastes nice.

I usually have protein before I go to the gym. The 45 minutes after training are when your body needs it the most so it's a good idea to have it just before training so it's available when your body needs it.

I prefer free weights because they require a lot more muscle and develop a lot more different areas to use where as most (not all) machines just target one specific body part.

However and this is a big however, training with free weights needs to be done carefully to start with since poor form can lead to injuries.

You're PT sounds like he's on the ball and he knows far more about you than I do so maybe in his professional opinion you need to start with machines then move to free weights afterwards.

I'd suggest you do what you're PT is suggesting to start with, building a fitness base is important when returning to training.

I do some HIIT training after each weights session but only 15-20 mins or so and I don't stress it with cardio since it only makes up a smaller part of my training.

If you want anything feel free to PM me.

[jimbobsimmonds]

MattMoore said:

Thanks for the replies so far. Seems I didn't detail everything enough. I joined the gym to lose weight, I need to lose approx 6 stone to be my ideal weight calculated from a bodyfat test. The trainer I am working with has given me a diet plan with 5 meals a day. What I am currently doing is 40 min weights followed by 20 min cardio. I am still in 2 minds whether or not these are the correct ratio to maximize my weight loss, but I am just sticking to the plan.
I had thought about protein supplements but there is such a vast ammount of conflicting evidence for newbies.

Thanks

i managed to lose 3 stone in about 3 months through 40 minutes of intense cardio and 40 minutes of weights... the following 5 months i lost another 3 stone with no cardio...

honestly i think diet has a lot more to do with it than cardio... you slog your guts out for 40 minutes when it would have been easier just to eat a little less...

keep the protein high mate, bear in mind it is muscle that fuels your metabolism...

[MattMoore]

Having never previously trained regularly or actively dieted, apart from the usual 'I should eat less....(insert sugary food here)' I have been quite suprised how relatively easy the eating plan is to follow, and I'm kickin myself for not doing it sooner. I waited until a month ago to start as my life had quietened down enough to be able to fully commit to a lifestyle change