Sons Asthma again

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Coco H

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4,237 posts

244 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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My son has had a bad day with his breathing. I am not really sure if it warrants seeing a doc or not to bother.
He has been on his preventer now for a couple of months and has generally been much better. But the last few days have built up with several uses of the relieve per day. Today he got in a real pickle and required 8 puffs before he was right again and not indrawing and wheezing badly. He hs been very upset with it all. But he is only 10 months (8 corrected)

As I have dealt with this attack should I just carry on as normal or does he need to see a doctor - his next appointment is mid NOvember with the peads

Team 17

623 posts

197 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Coco H said:
My son has had a bad day with his breathing. I am not really sure if it warrants seeing a doc or not to bother.
He has been on his preventer now for a couple of months and has generally been much better. But the last few days have built up with several uses of the relieve per day. Today he got in a real pickle and required 8 puffs before he was right again and not indrawing and wheezing badly. He hs been very upset with it all. But he is only 10 months (8 corrected)

As I have dealt with this attack should I just carry on as normal or does he need to see a doctor - his next appointment is mid NOvember with the peads
Hi Coco H, I sympathise with your son's situation, I am a long term asthma sufferer.

First off, see the doctor, it could be that he needs to have the amount of preventer he is receving adjusted. The reliever should really not be used that much, the body will build up a tolerance to it over time and that is not good, especially when it doesn't work when you need it the most.

But the most useful advice that I have ever received and has helped me more than drugs and conventional medicine has been from a book I was given by my wife: 'Asthma Free Naturally' by Patrick McKeown. Go on Amazon and read the reviews, that should get you interested.

If you want more advice about what the book is about, drop me a pm and I'll happily explain the simple techniques it prescribes which will have your son without the need for medication within a reasonably short timeframe and hopefully drug free for the rest of his life.

Edited by Team 17 on Friday 27th August 13:24

Loopyleesa

2,897 posts

174 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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I feel for you. My son had it bad when he was younger.
Have you thought about buying a Nebulizer? You can get liquid Ventolin Capsules from GP or use normal tap water and it turn it into steam, opening the airways.
I know there is a limit on how much Ventolin they can have. Best talking to your GP or Asthma clinic about one.

My son used to get that bad I would have to take him to A & E so they could put him on a Nebulizer, so in the end I bought one myself. One of the best ideas I've ever had!

Good luck.

Scotfox

582 posts

192 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Always better to play it safe when they're that young. My son was in and out of ICU & HDU with asthma. Take him to your GP at least and put your mind a rest if nothing else.

Horrible thing to deal with you have my sympathy.

My son (6) has hopefully outgrown the worst now.

T84

6,941 posts

201 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Thanks for this, I'm ordering that Asthma Free book for my OH who suffers with it terribly.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

252 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Loopyleesa said:
Have you thought about buying a Nebulizer?
Obviously you should be guided by your doctor but we bought a nebulizer for our daughter. 20 years ago it was about £100 but I think they're still the same sort of price today. Great peace of mind to have it (and the drugs) on hand.

Coco H

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4,237 posts

244 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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I took him to the GP in the end. By then (several hours later) he was absolutely fine and bonny as normal. I am peeved with myself for not taking him in when he was bad so they can work out what is actually happening... of course the GP must think I am one of those over neurotic mothers now - his chest sounded fine.
Of course at his age I'm not sure it is asthma could be left over issues from his prematurity but it being treated the same.
I always get it wrong with the GPs - take my children when it's nothing. When it is something serious that needs attention I tend to make them wait a bit longer and we end up out of hours being admitted at 1am to the hospital (has happened so many times with strangulated hernias, serious infections, bronchiolotis, blue baby...)

mph1977

12,467 posts

175 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Deva Link said:
Loopyleesa said:
Have you thought about buying a Nebulizer?
Obviously you should be guided by your doctor but we bought a nebulizer for our daughter. 20 years ago it was about £100 but I think they're still the same sort of price today. Great peace of mind to have it (and the drugs) on hand.
it's not 'great piece of mind' it's a potential death sentence unless it's been recommended by a consultant Respiratory physician.

MDI + spacer can be just as effective

there is NO firm upper limit of salbutamol doses - it's when the side effects outweigh the benefit


Nic jones

7,115 posts

227 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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I'm suffering badly at the moment, good to know I'm not the only one.

Roll on the winter I say!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

252 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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mph1977 said:
Deva Link said:
Loopyleesa said:
Have you thought about buying a Nebulizer?
Obviously you should be guided by your doctor but we bought a nebulizer for our daughter. 20 years ago it was about £100 but I think they're still the same sort of price today. Great peace of mind to have it (and the drugs) on hand.
it's not 'great piece of mind' it's a potential death sentence unless it's been recommended by a consultant Respiratory physician.

bks - how many kids with asthma see consultant respiratory physicians? These days most would be dealt with by the asthma nurse they probably wouldn't even see a doctor.

We were using a nebulizer borrowed from the local cottage hospital but it wasn't always available so we bought one.

mph1977

12,467 posts

175 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Deva Link said:
bks - how many kids with asthma see consultant respiratory physicians? These days most would be dealt with by the asthma nurse they probably wouldn't even see a doctor.
there in being the point ...

K77 CTR

1,618 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Our current emergency treatment for kids with non life threatening asthma attacks is 10 puffs of salbutamol via a spacer, we no longer use nebulisers unless absoluteley necessary. Maybe it would be best to discuss with the GP or paediatrician what they suggest should be done for a severe asthma attack.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

245 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Firstly, please don't worry about over-reacting if you're trying to assist your son with his asthma. As a long term sufferer myself (mine started around age 2), what a lot of people don't understand is that it can be an extremely painful condition. Asthma attacks actually hurt.

Secondly, on top of the prescription medication a few other things helped me improve my asthma substantially, including vitamin D supplementation and cutting down on vegetable oils (there's quite a lot of scientific research linking polyunsaturated omega 6 oils to a higher incidence of childhod asthma and a poorer control of adult asthma).

I'm currently looking into the Buteyko breathing method as well, though that's early days as yet.

maddog993

1,220 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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mph1977 said:
Deva Link said:
bks - how many kids with asthma see consultant respiratory physicians? These days most would be dealt with by the asthma nurse they probably wouldn't even see a doctor.
there in being the point ...
Sorry, but that is bks - in most circumstances you'd only bother with a specialist referral if there was the suggestion that the asthma was uncontrollable through the conventional means recommended by the Respiratory Nurse and/or GP. The system would soon grind to a halt if every asthma case was referred.

mph1977

12,467 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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maddog993 said:
mph1977 said:
Deva Link said:
bks - how many kids with asthma see consultant respiratory physicians? These days most would be dealt with by the asthma nurse they probably wouldn't even see a doctor.
there in being the point ...
Sorry, but that is bks - in most circumstances you'd only bother with a specialist referral if there was the suggestion that the asthma was uncontrollable through the conventional means recommended by the Respiratory Nurse and/or GP. The system would soon grind to a halt if every asthma case was referred.
as has been pointed out routine use and prescribing of nebulisers for asthma is strongly discouraged ...

in favour of the use of MDIs and spacers and if there is no improvement a proper face to face assessment by a health professional.

Lemmonie

6,314 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Strangly yesterday my son (nearly 3) needed his inhalor for the first time in months.

Hope your little one is ok x

Ps in answer to your question having been in a A&E crash situation with my son I would never hesitate if you are concerned about breathing and was told to simply dial 999 as when so little with breathing issues they can simply stop trying (nurse told me that in A&E so hope true)

Dont ever debate your Mother's instinct. We DO know best

x

Scotfox

582 posts

192 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Coco H said:
... of course the GP must think I am one of those over neurotic mothers now - his chest sounded fine.
...)


Never met A GP,Doctor or Paramedic yet that thought we were wasting their time when it comes to things like this.

TedMaul

2,092 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th September 2010
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Scotfox said:
Coco H said:
... of course the GP must think I am one of those over neurotic mothers now - his chest sounded fine.
...)


Never met A GP,Doctor or Paramedic yet that thought we were wasting their time when it comes to things like this.
You would hope so, breathing difficulties in infants very distressing for all concrened. Hate it when my son wheezes, especially when he then messes about with his inhaler and doesnt take it properly.