Can someone explain why this doctor is still practising?

Can someone explain why this doctor is still practising?

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stuart-b

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233 months

Lois

14,706 posts

259 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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Whoever wrote that needs to learn the difference between practise and practice and 37 degrees isn't a temperature. Poor reporting aside, it highlights poor training and support for doctors in many hospitals. There are far too many docs out there who are a danger. Some due to poor training and some due to basic incompetence.

ShadownINja

77,469 posts

289 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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anonymous said:
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Yes, it is. wink I think you've misread it. My cup of tea has a temperature of approximately 80C at the moment. It doesn't mean it's feeling ill, though.

arfur daley

834 posts

173 months

Saturday 17th July 2010
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i had an ill cup of tea once, i took it to a gp who said i needed pg and i went oooooo.

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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37 degrees C would not be a concern.......so no probs...I would defy any medical expert to recognise early signs of menningitis....just like a flu like condition. This is a big problem all GPs will confront and you cant teat all pts with these symptoms as menningitis. This is why this doc hasnt been struck off. Medicine is a science and not pure like maths FFS.

poo at Paul's

14,325 posts

182 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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I think the answer too the OP's question is that it's a woman and from her name appears to be from a "minority".

Therefore she is what's known as in Public Sector circles as "untouchable".

Edited by poo at Paul's on Sunday 18th July 10:43

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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female ? single mother? lesbian? what.........

arfur daley

834 posts

173 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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a "what".

Engineer1

10,486 posts

216 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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Too many illnesses start with flu like symptoms from a cold to something serious.

grumbledoak

31,841 posts

240 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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What are the odds that she was trained abroad? But, the NHS cannot and will not admit it has problems, and anyway that's RAY-CIST.

ETA- 4 deaths, apparently. http://northfieldpatriot.blogspot.com/2010/03/dr-s...

And the notes http://www.gmc-uk.org/static/documents/content/abd... suggest she was trained here, if I'm reading that right.


Edited by grumbledoak on Sunday 18th July 22:17

Lois

14,706 posts

259 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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Read the notes, bloody awful and completely incompetent. You can't discharge someone with a temp of 39 let alone the rest of it!

Mermaid

21,492 posts

178 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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poo at Paul's said:
I think the answer too the OP's question is that it's a woman and from her name appears to be from a "minority".

Therefore she is what's known as in Public Sector circles as "untouchable".
should have been made to go back to medical school for another 5/6 or 7 years. Then we would know how keen she is on medicine & care of patients.

Nubbin

9,067 posts

285 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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I feel awful when I read stuff like this, and embarrassed that there are people in my profession who can behave with such stupidity DESPITE their training - it isn't that difficult to become a reasonable doctor FFS. I'm currently supervising a doctor in a similar, though much less extreme case, who has conditions placed on their licence to practice, but the case quoted here relates to a hospital doctor who should get supervision by osmosis - she is a middle grade team member, not working in isolation.

Unfortunately, There are not enough doctors in the U.K., and the reality is that places like Cardiff are not the most popular of places to work, and so there is almost certainly a lack of trained medical staff for the posts available in that area, so it's all hands to the pumps. The NHS manpower crisis should gradually improve as the increased medical school output qualifies, but there is a shortage of doctors because of EU working time directives, shift structures etc. Not an excuse, just a fact of life.

Another slightly chilling factor is the relationship between medical graduates and borderline psycopathy/personality disorders - the psychological evaluations so beloved of many American HR departments are rarely used for medical school applicants - they are tinkered with in general practice recruitment, but not in a systematic way, and there is a sliding-scale relationship between medicine and psychological dysfunction, which can in extreme cases express itself as uncaring, dispassionate assessment of clinical cases. Scary all round, really.

Sevo

297 posts

198 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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Nubbin said:
Another slightly chilling factor is the relationship between medical graduates and borderline psycopathy/personality disorders - the psychological evaluations so beloved of many American HR departments are rarely used for medical school applicants - they are tinkered with in general practice recruitment, but not in a systematic way, and there is a sliding-scale relationship between medicine and psychological dysfunction, which can in extreme cases express itself as uncaring, dispassionate assessment of clinical cases. Scary all round, really.
Psychometric testing only catches stupid mad people. Not clever mad people. It is has been pretty well established that they are easily fooled.

quyen

592 posts

201 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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This is a slightly odd post.

grumbledoak said:
What are the odds that she was trained abroad? But, the NHS cannot and will not admit it has problems, and anyway that's RAY-CIST.
Why are you asking this question when later in the post, you give us a link that shows her registered qualification to be "MB ChB 1995 University of Liverpool" (i.e. she did her medical degree in Liverpool)?

grumbledoak said:
And the notes http://www.gmc-uk.org/static/documents/content/abd... suggest she was trained here, if I'm reading that right.
The answer to the OP's question in also in the link and is as follows:

"The Panel has also had regard to the ISG at paragraph 75, which states that suspension may be appropriate when, amongst other things, the following factors are apparent:
• A serious breach of Good Medical Practice where the misconduct is not fundamentally incompatible with continued registration;
• No evidence of harmful, deep-seated personality or attitudinal problems;
• The Panel is satisfied that the doctor has insight and does not pose a significant risk of repeating the behaviour."

HTH!

grumbledoak

31,841 posts

240 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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quyen said:
This is a slightly odd post.
Have you often wondered what the little "Edited by <blah> at <blah>" means?

Well, keep guessing.

HTH!

minerva

756 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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anonymous said:
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PractiSe is a verb and is used correctly in the context of the article...

mph1977

12,467 posts

175 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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and the conditions of practice sound very much like she's back to House Officer /FY1 levels of scrutiny

DR10

1,851 posts

181 months

Wednesday 18th August 2010
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minerva said:
anonymous said:
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PractiSe is a verb and is used correctly in the context of the article...
I think it is the bit in bold in the article that is the problem.