Noticing adverts for decarb everywhere.... Scam?

Noticing adverts for decarb everywhere.... Scam?

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Dupont666

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21,678 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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http://decarb.co.uk/

something that blocks carb intake by up to 66% and relieves you of £25 every 10 days and in return you could lose lots of weight!!!

Does this kind of thing really work?

Im not sure I understand, if you just cut the amount of carbs you eat by 2/3rds then you get the same benefit and its not costing £25 every 10days, or do people really think its pop 2 pills, eat the same st and lose weight?

Im thinking along the lines of scam, but because of clever wording its not a scam...

Is anyone going to admit to taking it?

if you took this, acai berry pills, calorie burning pills, fat burning pills and protein supplement... would you turn into a toned super freak over the course of a week?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Dupont666 said:
if you took this, acai berry pills, calorie burning pills, fat burning pills and protein supplement... would you turn into a toned super freak over the course of a week?
I expect you'd end up in hospital.

davemac250

4,499 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Dupont666 said:
if you took this, acai berry pills, calorie burning pills, fat burning pills and protein supplement... would you turn into a toned super freak over the course of a week?
Two words.

Anal and Leakage.


Blown2CV

29,536 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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In theory it should, because carb overload in the modern diet is what causes most fat people to be fat. Lots of carbs means lots of sugar in the bloodstream. Lots of sugar means we need to produce more insulin, and insulin blocks fat metabolisation, or increases storage of it or something. Problem is more insulin means that its effect on the body lessens over time, so you need more and more to have the same effect, and taken to extremes that is why fatties end up with type-2 fatty diabetes and become insulin-dependent.

In reality what we should be doing is just eating less carbs and more protein, but being surrounded by fat bd food advertising (that means you, M&S) and yummy fast food at every turn makes it hard to eat healthily. Yea it is down to the individual to make the right choices, but we can only choose from what is on offer and advertising is after all intended to persuade you to do something you wouldn't have.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Yep, we eat far too many carbs. If you consider what would be available to eat were we to revert to a hunter-gatherer society, carbs would be pretty low down on the list.

The trouble is that eating a carb-free diet is pretty difficult these days, especially if you travel a lot.

glazbagun

14,459 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Blown2CV said:
In theory it should, because carb overload in the modern diet is what causes most fat people to be fat. Lots of carbs means lots of sugar in the bloodstream. Lots of sugar means we need to produce more insulin, and insulin blocks fat metabolisation, or increases storage of it or something. Problem is more insulin means that its effect on the body lessens over time, so you need more and more to have the same effect, and taken to extremes that is why fatties end up with type-2 fatty diabetes and become insulin-dependent.

In reality what we should be doing is just eating less carbs and more protein, but being surrounded by fat bd food advertising (that means you, M&S) and yummy fast food at every turn makes it hard to eat healthily. Yea it is down to the individual to make the right choices, but we can only choose from what is on offer and advertising is after all intended to persuade you to do something you wouldn't have.
I did not know that. So does that mean that runners/cyclists/gym freaks who eat lots of carbs for fuel are at a greater risk of developing diabetes, if not getting fat, than Mr Skinny Average who sits at a desk all day and eats like a mouse?

Blown2CV

29,536 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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glazbagun said:
Blown2CV said:
In theory it should, because carb overload in the modern diet is what causes most fat people to be fat. Lots of carbs means lots of sugar in the bloodstream. Lots of sugar means we need to produce more insulin, and insulin blocks fat metabolisation, or increases storage of it or something. Problem is more insulin means that its effect on the body lessens over time, so you need more and more to have the same effect, and taken to extremes that is why fatties end up with type-2 fatty diabetes and become insulin-dependent.

In reality what we should be doing is just eating less carbs and more protein, but being surrounded by fat bd food advertising (that means you, M&S) and yummy fast food at every turn makes it hard to eat healthily. Yea it is down to the individual to make the right choices, but we can only choose from what is on offer and advertising is after all intended to persuade you to do something you wouldn't have.
I did not know that. So does that mean that runners/cyclists/gym freaks who eat lots of carbs for fuel are at a greater risk of developing diabetes, if not getting fat, than Mr Skinny Average who sits at a desk all day and eats like a mouse?
Not sure... I am far from an expert, but I presume the carbs are 'used up' by conversion to energy in exercise, hence why they are essential in large volumes for athletes. They consume what they use, but as they use a lot its OK. The issue is (I guess) in consuming more than you use up. If this is the case, then the presence of carbs in the body is ameliorated by exercise rather than insulin, so the effect would not be the same. I think you have to be pretty fat and sedentary to develop T2D.

Blown2CV

29,536 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Parrot of Doom said:
Yep, we eat far too many carbs. If you consider what would be available to eat were we to revert to a hunter-gatherer society, carbs would be pretty low down on the list.

The trouble is that eating a carb-free diet is pretty difficult these days, especially if you travel a lot.
Tell me about it. If you have any job that requires you to eat on the go, you are fked basically. Very hard to eat well, and nearly all the choices available are high fat comfort food. Having said that the capital has more 'conscious' delis and things, although you still have to find them, and they are still billed as health food shops and the like - it is deff an image and marketing problem as they will never win the bulk of people over like that. I often hoped that next on the list for big tongue Jamie Oliver after sorting school meals would be to sort the st available at service stations. Instead Heston got in there before him and turned everything into mushroom ice cream vomit

Blown2CV

29,536 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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so not actually answering the OP (cos I don't know the answer) I dunno if they work! Apparently fenugreek has a some kind of insulin/carb inhibitor effect and is used as such in supplements. However the amount you need to consume might leave you continuously smelling like the curry house bin yard

freecar

4,249 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Blown2CV said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Yep, we eat far too many carbs. If you consider what would be available to eat were we to revert to a hunter-gatherer society, carbs would be pretty low down on the list.

The trouble is that eating a carb-free diet is pretty difficult these days, especially if you travel a lot.
Tell me about it. If you have any job that requires you to eat on the go, you are fked basically. Very hard to eat well, and nearly all the choices available are high fat comfort food. Having said that the capital has more 'conscious' delis and things, although you still have to find them, and they are still billed as health food shops and the like - it is deff an image and marketing problem as they will never win the bulk of people over like that. I often hoped that next on the list for big tongue Jamie Oliver after sorting school meals would be to sort the st available at service stations. Instead Heston got in there before him and turned everything into mushroom ice cream vomit
I used to work as a driver's mate. In the end I got tired of bakery pasties (how, they're great!) I used to pack a lunch of rolls and stuff as a healthier alternative!

wakster

265 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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freecar said:
Blown2CV said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Yep, we eat far too many carbs. If you consider what would be available to eat were we to revert to a hunter-gatherer society, carbs would be pretty low down on the list.

The trouble is that eating a carb-free diet is pretty difficult these days, especially if you travel a lot.
Tell me about it. If you have any job that requires you to eat on the go, you are fked basically. Very hard to eat well, and nearly all the choices available are high fat comfort food. Having said that the capital has more 'conscious' delis and things, although you still have to find them, and they are still billed as health food shops and the like - it is deff an image and marketing problem as they will never win the bulk of people over like that. I often hoped that next on the list for big tongue Jamie Oliver after sorting school meals would be to sort the st available at service stations. Instead Heston got in there before him and turned everything into mushroom ice cream vomit
I used to work as a driver's mate. In the end I got tired of bakery pasties (how, they're great!) I used to pack a lunch of rolls and stuff as a healthier alternative!
I simply cannot be arsed to make enough food to keep me going through the day.

collateral

7,238 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Sorry, though this was going to be about EFI.

Pass the chips

cheeky_chops

1,603 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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the missus friend was about 11st and typical yoyo diets. She was having IVF and cut out all processed foods and no carbs. Lots of fish, fruit/veg, pulses, water. She says she is never hungry, it was just a change to help her get pregnant. Over the last year she has lost 20lbs with very little exercise iirc (not got up the duff mind)