Alternative cures for cancer

Alternative cures for cancer

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loltolhurst

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1,994 posts

191 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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sooo relative has big tumour in her back and has lost use of one arm - basically shes in for a slow and painful end.

googling there are a million altrenative treatments and weird and wonderful ways of curing or at least slowing cancer etc.

are these all cons and bks or does anyone know of any real stories of anything helping / working?

thanks

Silent1

19,761 posts

242 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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If they work they will be used by the medical profession, if they don't they'll be pedaled by liars and thieves.

loltolhurst

Original Poster:

1,994 posts

191 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Silent1 said:
If they work they will be used by the medical profession, if they don't they'll be pedaled by liars and thieves.
what about experimental ones / ones not supported by big drug companies - is it that clear cut?

Silent1

19,761 posts

242 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Basically, if it's experimental you wont be able to buy it as it wont be licensed.

Silent1

19,761 posts

242 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Before this gets raided by the homeopathy types.

Have a read here:
http://www.sciencepunk.com

and here:
http://www.badscience.net

simonrockman

6,911 posts

262 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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My wife has just been given the all-clear, after being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in December. Back then she was given a 20% chance of living another five years.

She's been amazing through it, and has used reflexology, acupuncture and various other non-traditional means. I think they have helped with her mental attitude if not the medical cure (which was very heavy duty chemo). The only time she despaired was when she was given a book on "The rainbow diet". Which said "follow this dietary regime or you will die".

I don't believe that there is any alternative to the best medicine - the Cancer Research UK site is excellent, and if you are eligible for any kind of trial get on one - and you need to be very careful about the alternative world, if only for what it can do for your state of mind, both positive and negative.

Good luck.

Simon.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

245 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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I have no idea if this is something that the docs will consider useful if this case, but the extremely politically incorrect "ketogenic diet" (used to treat drug resistant epilespy) has shown some effect on cancer growth, due to cancer cells' apparent inability to utilise fat/ketones as an energy source

e.g.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,166...
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSCOL959416200703...
http://www.jbc.org/content/278/15/12759.abstract
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2004/05/15/1582.a...

Loads more stuff on google if this is something that you'd be interested in researching.

ShadownINja

77,468 posts

289 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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There is apparently an organisation in the US that helps people who are "beyond help". No idea what the techniques involve or the cost. There is also some centre in Bristol that is apparently worthwhile going to... I forget the name but googling gives this site: http://www.pennybrohncancercare.org/

I also understand that drastically changing your diet can help: cut out sugar, stress, dairy; drink more water, eat more fresh fruit and vegetables but it may be too late for this.

Edited by ShadownINja on Monday 31st May 11:17

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

218 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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I have known a few people who have been to Penny Brohn and say some favourable things about having the time and space to resolve the issues they have surrounding their cancer.

As for the alternative cure side, please be aware that there is a world filled with people who will suggest that what they can do will 'cure' cancer. Most will be abroad - it's illegal in the UK to promote a cancer cure or treatment unless you are a medically qualified doctor.

With respect to the many complex issues that having cancer inevitably raises, there this is where places like PB can provide some great support and understanding (no affiliation from me - just what the people I have known say about it). Dealing with the stress aspect alone will go a very long way to improving quality of life.


Rach*

8,824 posts

223 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Acupuncture can help with the side-effects of treatment, but certainly don't consider it as a possible cure.

All the best for your family

loltolhurst

Original Poster:

1,994 posts

191 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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thanks everyone

shirt

23,433 posts

208 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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there was a 6 page article in the times' eureka magazine last week about pioneering treatment to reduce the size of tumours using targeted therapy with something called ernotlib.

the research is taking place at massachusetts general hospital's cancer centre, patient under study being renee weaver. maybe googleable.

BTW- what's the rainbow diet? a friend's mum attributes a strict organic diet to helping her beat cancer but doesn't claim that foods can be a cure.

simonrockman

6,911 posts

262 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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dandarez, I'm sorry I don't buy your conspiracy theory. In most of the world healthcare is paid for by insurance companies. They are hard nosed and commercial. If there was any way to save costs they would be all over it.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

269 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Rach* said:
Acupuncture can help with the side-effects of treatment, but certainly don't consider it as a possible cure.

All the best for your family
It pays to keep an open mind.

Now this tale isn't about some life saving treatment, but more about a change of attitude.

That was until I developed a chronic condition, the "treatment" for this went on for over 18 months to no avail, I had constant waking pain.

Then one day the physio mentioned that she'd passed some course and said laughingly would I like to try acupuncture.

I always held fairly strict views about "nonsense" and "quack" cures but, yeah thinks I but why not, not really expecting much.

Well guess what, not only was the condition cured I learned a very real lesson that has progressively shaped my attitudes since.

Don't dismiss anything.

Best wishes

Mo.


Rach*

8,824 posts

223 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Mojocvh said:
Rach* said:
Acupuncture can help with the side-effects of treatment, but certainly don't consider it as a possible cure.

All the best for your family
It pays to keep an open mind.

Now this tale isn't about some life saving treatment, but more about a change of attitude.

That was until I developed a chronic condition, the "treatment" for this went on for over 18 months to no avail, I had constant waking pain.

Then one day the physio mentioned that she'd passed some course and said laughingly would I like to try acupuncture.

I always held fairly strict views about "nonsense" and "quack" cures but, yeah thinks I but why not, not really expecting much.

Well guess what, not only was the condition cured I learned a very real lesson that has progressively shaped my attitudes since.

Don't dismiss anything.

Best wishes

Mo.
Acupuncture can be very effective for certain condition, especially musco-skeletal, I use it in certain dental procedures.

But it is not a cure for cancer.

Quite happy to be proven wrong of course.

Glad it helped you, I have treated patients who haven't been able to tolerate anything in their mouths before using acupuncture.


Silent1

19,761 posts

242 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Rach* said:
I have treated patients who haven't been able to tolerate anything in their mouths
yikeseek

Rach*

8,824 posts

223 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Silent1 said:
Rach* said:
I have treated patients who haven't been able to tolerate anything in their mouths
yikeseek
No more gagging in my house

Silent1

19,761 posts

242 months

Saturday 12th June 2010
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Rach* said:
Silent1 said:
Rach* said:
I have treated patients who haven't been able to tolerate anything in their mouths
yikeseek
No more gagging in my house
Impressive, are they able to swallow afterwards?