Wisdom teeth?

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pmanson

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13,387 posts

260 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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For some reason last weekend I felt very run down (achy all over, sore throat, sore mouth in general and ear ache)... By Sunday I felt 100% better again until about 4pm yesterday...

the symptons are back - general aches and pains, no sore throat but my jaw and mouth feel very tender. Not stopping me eating (although I have lost my appetite).

I don't feel like I have a cold coming (although it could be possible with a 6 month old in the house) so could it be my wisdom teeth giving me jip?

I know I have a lower one that is impacted and the top two are completly through.

Worth getting a dentist appointment? Or not something worth bothering him with?

I thought it might be hayfever but apart from feeling a bit bunged up first thing in the morning I have no hayfever symptons.

Cheers,
Phill

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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when my wisdom teeth were coming through i used to feel really, really run down and have horrible jaw ache. i never got a sore throat though! if it's that bad worth going to see someone about it. i ended having 3 of mine out eek

retreat

326 posts

226 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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Blame the kids!

I havn't felt well for 3 1/2 years, the kids just bring home every known virus from these baby groups!

If it is your wisdom teeth I would expect the very back of your mouth (behind the last tooth)to be sore, also, you may have a flap of skin over the tooth that traps food etc. If this is the case then it's probably worth a trip to the dentist to get it washed out and some antibiotics. If not, blame the kids and put it down to a dose of manmonia!

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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wisdoms can give febrile illness...like viral symptoms.. use hot salty mouthwash or corsodyl from pharmacy. Antibiotics may be required if tenderness under angle of jaw or limited jaw opening.

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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MacGee said:
wisdoms can give febrile illness...like viral symptoms.. use hot salty mouthwash or corsodyl from pharmacy. Antibiotics may be required if tenderness under angle of jaw or limited jaw opening.
macgee, do you recommend the corsodyl daily mouth wash or the original, or is there little in it?

cheers!

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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original....but both good. its the chlorhexidine gluconate what does it.......excellent stuff.

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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MacGee said:
original....but both good. its the chlorhexidine gluconate what does it.......excellent stuff.
thanks mate thumbup

bought some of the daily defence the other day, doesn't seem as harsh as the listerine stuff. what toothpaste do you recommend?

ph:teeth matters smile

dilbert

7,741 posts

238 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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When mine came through (impacted) it was a couple of years of sporadic agony.
I decided not to have them out.
From time to time I still get mild "cold/flu" type symptoms, and headaches.

Corsodyl!

Edited by dilbert on Sunday 25th April 15:00

pmanson

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13,387 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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retreat said:
If it is your wisdom teeth I would expect the very back of your mouth (behind the last tooth)to be sore, also, you may have a flap of skin over the tooth that traps food etc. If this is the case then it's probably worth a trip to the dentist to get it washed out and some antibiotics. If not, blame the kids and put it down to a dose of manmonia!
Yep that's where the pain is!

Thanks guys - thought I was going nuts.

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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E21_Ross said:
MacGee said:
original....but both good. its the chlorhexidine gluconate what does it.......excellent stuff.
thanks mate thumbup

bought some of the daily defence the other day, doesn't seem as harsh as the listerine stuff. what toothpaste do you recommend?

ph:teeth matters smile
basically the quality of brush is much more important than the paste. big brand names OK...use oral-B for brushes...def best for me.

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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MacGee said:
E21_Ross said:
MacGee said:
original....but both good. its the chlorhexidine gluconate what does it.......excellent stuff.
thanks mate thumbup

bought some of the daily defence the other day, doesn't seem as harsh as the listerine stuff. what toothpaste do you recommend?

ph:teeth matters smile
basically the quality of brush is much more important than the paste. big brand names OK...use oral-B for brushes...def best for me.
i use an oral B brush biggrin thanks macgee

Ross.

pauldavies85

423 posts

193 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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only use the mouthwash outside of brushing your teeth too!! at least 40mins, otherwise it binds with the paste and renders both useless!

Sounds backwards I know.

Don't use m/w on regular basis, just for acute episode/flare ups - its very strong (side effects to taste/bad staining), the bacteria will build up a resistance with problonged use much like any medication.

If wisdom tooth doesn't settle with rinsing, must see dentist! Often the case that the opposing upper wisdom tooth needs removing - all will be explained when needed.




pmanson

Original Poster:

13,387 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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pauldavies85 said:
only use the mouthwash outside of brushing your teeth too!! at least 40mins, otherwise it binds with the paste and renders both useless!

Sounds backwards I know.

Don't use m/w on regular basis, just for acute episode/flare ups - its very strong (side effects to taste/bad staining), the bacteria will build up a resistance with problonged use much like any medication.

If wisdom tooth doesn't settle with rinsing, must see dentist! Often the case that the opposing upper wisdom tooth needs removing - all will be explained when needed.
It's both top ones that seem to have flared up! Will get some mouth wash tomorrow and try and get an appointment at the dentis (probably in about 6 months!)

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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pauldavies85 said:
only use the mouthwash outside of brushing your teeth too!! at least 40mins, otherwise it binds with the paste and renders both useless!

Sounds backwards I know.

Don't use m/w on regular basis, just for acute episode/flare ups - its very strong (side effects to taste/bad staining), the bacteria will build up a resistance with problonged use much like any medication.

If wisdom tooth doesn't settle with rinsing, must see dentist! Often the case that the opposing upper wisdom tooth needs removing - all will be explained when needed.
why then, does the corsodyl daily mouth wash say use after brushing? confused

what do you think, macgee?

Edited by E21_Ross on Sunday 25th April 22:03

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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I'm not aware of the interaction with toothpaste....may have to look that one up. however the reason to use after brushing is to reduce the stain buildup.....

the producers of corsodyl claim no tolerance with continual use

Driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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MacGee said:
I'm not aware of the interaction with toothpaste....may have to look that one up. however the reason to use after brushing is to reduce the stain buildup.....

the producers of corsodyl claim no tolerance with continual use
Sodium lauryl sulphate (the detergent in toothpaste for the non-dentists) disactivates/attenuates chlorhexidine.

At least that's what they say in the journals. You can buy chlorhexidine toothpaste with SLS in it though which I've never understood on this basis.

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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I have learned something new today...thanks guys...

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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thumbup

sounds like it's better to use the mouthwash during the day then. perhaps after brushing, but a little while before the following meal.

cheers

pauldavies85

423 posts

193 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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Chlorhexidine (digluconate) is cationic and interacts with anionic particles including toothpaste. This is why it causes staining, it actually increases the affinity to stain of normal agents (coffee, red wine, nicotine etcetc)

I think the toothpaste is designed to be used with the m/w, but as far as i can see it doesn't have any fluoride in it - not much use then!

In short, very very good stuff (used in surgery across the board) but to be used as a medicament rather than hygiene product.

The daily stuff is a waste of time IMHO, but then all m/w is really. no substitute for proper mechanical cleaning.

Just my opinion, but who trusts a dentist hey!

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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this is ironic as i've now got tooth ache from my top right wisdom tooth. i had the other 3 out, but they (well, me rather) didn't want to have this removed because a branch of the maxillary nerve ran through it's roots. i didn't want to risk damage to the nerve. the dentist at the hospital said it was 50/50 chance.

didn't fancy those odds!