any one had hypnotheraphy for wasps?

any one had hypnotheraphy for wasps?

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SmokinV8

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786 posts

218 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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daughter has a real fear of wasps, she wondered if hypno might help,has anyone had success treating this phobia?
mrs smokinv8

E21_Ross

35,697 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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my aunt had a phobia for spiders, even if it was the size of a 5 pence coin. she had hypo for it and she still doesn't like them but far less of a complete wuss than she used to be.


davhill

5,263 posts

191 months

Tuesday 8th June 2010
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That is called Spheksophobia. Like any phobia, it's an irrational fear of something, in this instance wasps. 'Irrational' is the keyword; a fear of, say, tigers is justifiable and is not phobia.

The treatment of choice is exposure treatment, which may be offered by the NHS and will certainly be available privately.

Exposure therapy works by making the subject get closer and closer to the feared item. This can be a long haul but is often ultimately successful.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th June 2010
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Lots of different approaches, for exposure to hypno to something as seemingly odd as EFT that can be rather effective and surprisingly fast with phobias. Lots of choices available.

As a suggesting, get your daughter involved in resolving the issue herself as opposed to having someting 'done to her' like hypno. Empowerment also goes a long way to boosting self confidence.

goldblum

10,272 posts

174 months

Wednesday 9th June 2010
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For Exposure Therapy you could combine treatment with a holiday.Went to Skiathos one year and the place was crawling with them.Nearly ruined the holiday.Understand Corfu was very bad last year.

ShadownINja

77,468 posts

289 months

Wednesday 9th June 2010
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nuts

kooky guy

582 posts

173 months

Wednesday 9th June 2010
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davhill said:
That is called Spheksophobia. Like any phobia, it's an irrational fear of something, in this instance wasps. 'Irrational' is the keyword; a fear of, say, tigers is justifiable and is not phobia.

The treatment of choice is exposure treatment, which may be offered by the NHS and will certainly be available privately.

Exposure therapy works by making the subject get closer and closer to the feared item. This can be a long haul but is often ultimately successful.
Irrational? What's irrational about a fear of wasps that doesn't apply to tigers? Wasps are far more likely to go out of their way to sting you. I hate the little wotsits. They just used to mildly irritate me until I was attacked a few times by a couple of (admittedly little) swarms after accidentally running over their stupid nests with the lawnmower, now I hate them. My poor little dog keeps being attacked by them for no reason too.

I find revenge is a good way of making me feel better about them.

Guy

T40ORA

5,177 posts

226 months

Wednesday 9th June 2010
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NLP (neuro linguistic programming) can be very effective; I saw a couple of amazing examples of it working when I attended my Practitioner Training Course.

It's a pretty simple procedure, where your daughter effectively 'cures' herself of the phobia. As long as it is a real phobia, as has been mentioned above; an irrational fear rather than just an extreme dislike.

I'd be happy to see if I could help by running through the relevant exercise

davhill

5,263 posts

191 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Irrational? What's irrational about a fear of wasps that doesn't apply to tigers?

'Irrational' in this context is about the level of fear in relation to the scale of the actual danger.
You'd understand it if you had to undergo a choice...face six wasps or one tiger.

Stu R

21,410 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Hypnotising wasps, whatever will they think of next.

Cupramax

10,607 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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davhill said:
That is called Spheksophobia. Like any phobia, it's an irrational fear of something, in this instance wasps. 'Irrational' is the keyword; a fear of, say, tigers is justifiable and is not phobia.
Not entirely true, its not irrational if you're allergic to their stings, I've been admitted to hospital with one side of my face so swolen I looked like the elephant man after being stung on my lip so my fear of them is entirly justifiable.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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The fear of wasps is perfectly rational. They're dangerous. In fact the fear of anything is perfectly rational in the context of the connections that the
brain makes for that individual. For example I worked with someone a while back who had a fear of buttons. Any time she had to touch buttons she get very tense and anxious. The trigger was very simple in that in her early life she had witnessed someone receiving CPR and the woman had a blouse that she remembered hearing the buttons 'pop' on as it was opened. An irrational fear to someone else, perfectly rational to her.

ShadownINja

77,468 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Wot dmn said!

dpbird90

5,535 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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I too had what most called an "irrational" fear of wasps and bees, I'm not allergic to the stings but I was always really jumpy around them. Now I have the 2 tools which get rid of the fear:



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ShadownINja

77,468 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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I had much fun with a wasp nest once:


Mind you, got bored after about 50.

T40ORA

5,177 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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You are missing the point; there is a very big difference between a fear and a 'real' phobia. A fear is something that can actually be useful, and gives strategies for avoiding dangerous things/situations. A phobia can be life limiting, does not actually help you and can cause significant problems.

Agrophobia is severely life limiting, as is claustrophobia. Even if they originated from some significant situation (being trapped in a lift as a youngster say), if the reaction they generate now does not in any way enhance your life they can be regarded as a phobia.

An example I've seen cited is that a fear of cliff tops is obviously sensible. If you can't go above the third floor in a tower block, or the fourth rung of a ladder then they do not benefit you. So they become an irrational life limiting fear - a phobia.

A fear or dislike of wasps is rational; I don't like the bds. But phobia suffers can suffer panic attacks, over-react and 'lose it' in a big way.

The fear of buttons example does not make it rational for the sufferer, simply explainable in terms of a seminal event. Associating buttons with something as serious as heart attack, or death, or the need for CPR is not a rational or logical link.

'Treatment' for phobias can simply consist of helping the sufferer to see that the reaction they have is irrational. They will still not like the cause of their phobia, but they won't over react.

My phobia was needles/injections - especially at the dentist. In fact I've never had an injection at the dentist, despite having had a great deal of dental work over my life time. I still don't like the bd things, but my reaction now is much more reasonable and controllable. Since going through a 'cure' exercise I have had blood tests and injections and I am honestly much better able to deal with them. So my phobia has now become simply a strong dislike.

OK, I admit that it is a bit of grey scale/blurred line between fear and phobia but at the extremes phobias really are very different from simple fears or dislikes.


Edited by T40ORA on Thursday 10th June 17:53

davhill

5,263 posts

191 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Edited by davhill on Friday 11th June 05:00

davhill

5,263 posts

191 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Edited by davhill on Friday 11th June 04:53

davhill

5,263 posts

191 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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T40ORA said:
You are missing the point; there is a very big difference between a fear and a 'real' phobia. A fear is something that can actually be useful, and gives strategies for avoiding dangerous things/situations. A phobia can be life limiting, does not actually help you and can cause significant problems.

Agrophobia is severely life limiting, as is claustrophobia. Even if they originated from some significant situation (being trapped in a lift as a youngster say), if the reaction they generate now does not in any way enhance your life they can be regarded as a phobia.

An example I've seen cited is that a fear of cliff tops is obviously sensible. If you can't go above the third floor in a tower block, or the fourth rung of a ladder then they do not benefit you. So they become an irrational life limiting fear - a phobia.

A fear or dislike of wasps is rational; I don't like the bds. But phobia suffers can suffer panic attacks, over-react and 'lose it' in a big way.

The fear of buttons example does not make it rational for the sufferer, simply explainable in terms of a seminal event. Associating buttons with something as serious as heart attack, or death, or the need for CPR is not a rational or logical link.

'Treatment' for phobias can simply consist of helping the sufferer to see that the reaction they have is irrational. They will still not like the cause of their phobia, but they won't over react.

My phobia was needles/injections - especially at the dentist. In fact I've never had an injection at the dentist, despite having had a great deal of dental work over my life time. I still don't like the bd things, but my reaction now is much more reasonable and controllable. Since going through a 'cure' exercise I have had blood tests and injections and I am honestly much better able to deal with them. So my phobia has now become simply a strong dislike.

OK, I admit that it is a bit of grey scale/blurred line between fear and phobia but at the extremes phobias really are very different from simple fears or dislikes.


Edited by T40ORA on Thursday 10th June 17:53
Absolutely spot on! And I'm glad your belonephobia is under control.

(DB-H, ex 26-year agoraphobia sufferer, succesful schema mode therapy patient and holder of MSc in psychology.)