High protein diet
Discussion
Since I hit a bit of a plateau on my weight loss I have decided that I am fairly happy with it and have decided to do a bit more weight training. From what I've read the best way is to minimise fat and carb intake and hammer the carbs. Trying to eat 1g for every lb of body weight and have been managing a fair bit more, probably 200g of protein a day and a vastly reduced carb/fat intake.
I have a few KG of this... http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/3969/1/PhD-N...
Have been eating salmon for breakfast with a poached egg, a scoop of the above around 11, roast chicken (packet stuff from Tesco) with a fat free probiotic yoghurt for lunch around 1pm, then a scoop of the above around 3pm and a dinner consisting of meat and veg.
Can anyone comment on the above diet? I am looking to still drop bodyfat but going to the gym and lifting moderate weights 4 days a week and making sure I am still doing cardio 5 times a week at least.
I did lose weight originally by eating very little, so in the last week my weight has gone up by about 3lbs which is no major problem as I am trying to concentrate on changes in my body rather than weight now.
Side effect of this diet is needing a 'number 2' about 3 or 4 times a day whereas when I was losing my weight I was probably only going 2 or 3 times a week! Is this normal?
Taking in at least 1.5 gallons (12 pints) of water a day.
Comments welcome!
I have a few KG of this... http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/3969/1/PhD-N...
Have been eating salmon for breakfast with a poached egg, a scoop of the above around 11, roast chicken (packet stuff from Tesco) with a fat free probiotic yoghurt for lunch around 1pm, then a scoop of the above around 3pm and a dinner consisting of meat and veg.
Can anyone comment on the above diet? I am looking to still drop bodyfat but going to the gym and lifting moderate weights 4 days a week and making sure I am still doing cardio 5 times a week at least.
I did lose weight originally by eating very little, so in the last week my weight has gone up by about 3lbs which is no major problem as I am trying to concentrate on changes in my body rather than weight now.
Side effect of this diet is needing a 'number 2' about 3 or 4 times a day whereas when I was losing my weight I was probably only going 2 or 3 times a week! Is this normal?
Taking in at least 1.5 gallons (12 pints) of water a day.
Comments welcome!
don't be afraid to treat yourself to SOME carbs, they do have some use and can really help with your weights.
i do 3 big weight sessions a week and found with so few carbs my weights started to suffer.
what attracted you to that supplement?
i swear by www.myprotein.co.uk no frills brilliant service. reason i mention it is that does seem quite expensive.
at the moment im using MP's meal replacement powder as a way of losing weight. these are around 290cals per shake but really help keep me full. also only £18 for a 2.4kg bag
as long as you're not feeling hungry or seeing your weights suffer i shouldn't worry too much.
number 2's i can't imagine is too much to worry about (though im no expert) as long as everythings still "moving along nicely"
btw if you want 5% off your 1st order at MP my referral code is MP184904, sorry couldn't resist
ETA actually am i allowed to do that? :S ^^
i do 3 big weight sessions a week and found with so few carbs my weights started to suffer.
what attracted you to that supplement?
i swear by www.myprotein.co.uk no frills brilliant service. reason i mention it is that does seem quite expensive.
at the moment im using MP's meal replacement powder as a way of losing weight. these are around 290cals per shake but really help keep me full. also only £18 for a 2.4kg bag
as long as you're not feeling hungry or seeing your weights suffer i shouldn't worry too much.
number 2's i can't imagine is too much to worry about (though im no expert) as long as everythings still "moving along nicely"
btw if you want 5% off your 1st order at MP my referral code is MP184904, sorry couldn't resist
ETA actually am i allowed to do that? :S ^^
Edited by samdale on Friday 12th March 09:53
Don't be too stingy with your carbs, they provide the energy for your body to recover and grow between training sessions.
If you're having 200g of protein a day that's 800 kCal (4kCal/g of protein). Carbohydrates have the same calorie content whilst fat is around 9kCal/g. Can you manage 300g of carbs per day (1,200 kCal)?
HTH,
Animal
If you're having 200g of protein a day that's 800 kCal (4kCal/g of protein). Carbohydrates have the same calorie content whilst fat is around 9kCal/g. Can you manage 300g of carbs per day (1,200 kCal)?
HTH,
Animal
You need carbs for energy!
I don't agree with any of these restrict this and eat loads of that sort of diet. If your doing cardio 5 times a week and weight training you need all the energy your body can get!
Ideally you should have some sort of carbs after training as it helps recovery and speeds up the process of getting the protein to your muscles.
I don't agree with any of these restrict this and eat loads of that sort of diet. If your doing cardio 5 times a week and weight training you need all the energy your body can get!
Ideally you should have some sort of carbs after training as it helps recovery and speeds up the process of getting the protein to your muscles.
You also need to have a good fibre and nutritional intake otherwise you'll be doing your body long term damage. Fibre from wholegrain products such as brown rice, wholemeal pasta/bread, beans/pulses. Also lots of fruit & veg that will also add to the fibre and importnantly nutritional content.
frank hovis said:
You dont need carbs for enegry ,
total misnomer
I take less than 30g carbs per day as i dont tolerate them well
Look for anabolic diet
Sorry mate but that is absolute btotal misnomer
I take less than 30g carbs per day as i dont tolerate them well
Look for anabolic diet
ks.Explain where the breakdown of sugars that provides energy come from please.
Oh and anabolic means 'growth' so a diet that promotes growth requires a mix of all the elements. Plus if you have insuffcient carbohydrates and you are exercising guess where your body gets its energy from - protein. Hence less available for the muscles to repair and grow.
Edited by bales on Friday 12th March 13:32
grumbledoak said:
Your body can burn fat for energy just fine.
You seem to be missing the point.The body will only burn fat when it has nothing else left, same as with proteins.
The primary store for energy is glycogen, which comes from carbs. Of course you can survive without them as your body adapts to what it has. However anybody who is an athlete would never ever use this method as it is not effecient nor does it provide the same quantity of energy.
All this sort of misinformation stems from bodybuilders and weight training people who don't want to do suffcient exercise to get their bodyfat levels low, they want to do it by fat burners and forcing the body to use other sources of energy by restricting their diets.
Anybody who is fit and healthy and is a low body fat percentage would never consider using anything other than carbs as a fuel!!
What a silly discussion!
bales said:
frank hovis said:
You dont need carbs for enegry ,
total misnomer
I take less than 30g carbs per day as i dont tolerate them well
Look for anabolic diet
Sorry mate but that is absolute btotal misnomer
I take less than 30g carbs per day as i dont tolerate them well
Look for anabolic diet
ks.Explain where the breakdown of sugars that provides energy come from please.
Oh and anabolic means 'growth' so a diet that promotes growth requires a mix of all the elements. Plus if you have insuffcient carbohydrates and you are exercising guess where your body gets its energy from - protein. Hence less available for the muscles to repair and grow.
Edited by bales on Friday 12th March 13:32
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seems to do it pretty well, dosen't need to be a sugar...
grumbledoak said:
bales said:
Anybody who is fit and healthy and is a low body fat percentage would never consider using anything other than carbs as a fuel!!
OP is trying for weight loss.I do not think that you need to restrict your diet to a point where your body has to go to a back-up system to provide energy to lose that weight, you will always burn a degree of excess fat when you are exercising hard.
I'm not going to add anymore to this other than why would you restrict something from your diet when you are exercising a lot that is the primary source for energy.
If you lift weights a couple of times a week and maybe jog a bit then you might be alright, anyone who does any high intensity exercise or long duration will end up feeling ill and weak very quickly on a low carbs diet.
Edited by bales on Friday 12th March 14:09
The stting situation would annoy me. When I get too much protein, especially from protein shakes, which contain no fibre, I fart a lot and I take that as a signal to make me adjust my diet. You could add some porridge oats to your protein shakes (unblended or partially blended, up to you) to offset this effect a bit.
tting situation would annoy me. When I get too much protein, especially from protein shakes, which contain no fibre, I fart a lot and I take that as a signal to make me adjust my diet. You could add some porridge oats to your protein shakes (unblended or partially blended, up to you) to offset this effect a bit.
bales said:
If you lift weights a couple of times a week and maybe jog a bit then you might be alright, anyone who does any high intensity exercise or long duration will end up feeling ill and weak very quickly on a low carbs diet.
In my weekly routine I plan to run twice a week. 30mins on Thurs on the treadmill and 3-6 miles on Saturday morning. I have got a few gels/gatorade stuff. If I take these for the energy boost I could still lose my podgy mid section? On my 30 min run on Thurs the machine told me I had burned over 750calories.The oats tip sounds good, I think I may try that.
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