Training heart rate.

[aabbaa1980]

Good morning chaps.

Got a question. I am quite unfit and have recently started training.

My heart rate jumps to 182-184 when I am running at 8kmph on the treadmill. I run for about 15-20mins tops.

I am 29 years old, male, 5'10, 100kg, I have a broad frame and i am over weight but it does not look it. I generally have done very little exercise over the past 3 years. Now i am trying to get back into shape.

Is 182bpm a bit worrying?

[Munter]

I'm about the same age (30). As a comparison I hit 160 - 170 after 10 mins on the treadmill. But I'm only 70 KG. No real exercise to speak of for a long time (started at the gym again last week).

Not able to comment on what's good or bad. But so long as you're not having chest pain, seriously out of breath or feeling dizzy, and you're able to walk away and lift some weights afterwards. I wouldn't be too worried.

We're still young damnit!

[aabbaa1980]

My training consists of:

-15-20minute run at 8kmph
-20mins cross trainner
-12*5 50kg lifts on the thights (sitting down machine where you raise legs to lift weights)
-12*5 40kg lac weights machine which as a bar you pull down.
- 12*5 80kg pulling of weights when sitting down. works out chect and arms.
-12*5 40kg tri-cip machine.

Takes me 1.5+ hrs and i do it twice/3 times a week.

[aabbaa1980]

Munter said:

I'm about the same age (30). As a comparison I hit 160 - 170 after 10 mins on the treadmill. But I'm only 70 KG. No real exercise to speak of for a long time (started at the gym again last week).

Not able to comment on what's good or bad. But so long as you're not having chest pain, seriously out of breath or feeling dizzy, and you're able to walk away and lift some weights afterwards. I wouldn't be too worried.

We're still young damnit!

Surprisingly no dizziness. I was training 6 monts ago and had dizziness but i am fine now as i have just restarted after 3months. Feela bit lightheaded after the 40mins cardio but disappears quickly.

My aim is to drop down to 80-85kg. I need to lose15+ kg. I hae already lost 2-3kg in 1 week.

I am on a maximuscle diet plan. started last week.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 10:32

[anonymous-user]

Your max rate should be approx 220 - your age = 191. So you're OK but operating near the max.

Fat loss exercise is around 75-85% of that = 143-162.

There are more accurate formulas but that's a good basic look at what you should be doing.

[aabbaa1980]

garyhun said:

Your max rate should be approx 220 - your age = 191. So you're OK but operating near the max.

Fat loss exercise is around 75-85% of that = 143-162.

There are more accurate formulas but that's a good basic look at what you should be doing.

I dont actually know how all this heart rate training stuff works.

My training is to lose weight, strengthen my heart. My father had a heart attack at 42ish, and died. He was accountant like myself, smoked 40 a day, unlike me and also had a lot of home made curries. Never exercised. I suppose you can see why I am worried.

What do you chaps think i shopuld do in terms of my approach to training?

[samdale]

aabbaa1980 said:

Munter said:

I'm about the same age (30). As a comparison I hit 160 - 170 after 10 mins on the treadmill. But I'm only 70 KG. No real exercise to speak of for a long time (started at the gym again last week).

Not able to comment on what's good or bad. But so long as you're not having chest pain, seriously out of breath or feeling dizzy, and you're able to walk away and lift some weights afterwards. I wouldn't be too worried.

We're still young damnit!

Surprisingly no dizziness. I was training 6 monts ago and had dizziness but i am fine now as i have just restarted after 3months. Feela bit lightheaded after the 40mins cardio but disappears quickly.

My aim is to drop down to 80-85kg. I need to lose15+ kg. I hae already lost 2-3kg in 1 week.

I am on a maximuscle diet plan. started last week.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 10:32

that is quite a lot of weight in 1 week! im guessing some of it will be water but still, id aim for more like 1-2lbs a week tops otherwise you'll risk losing muscle as well.
to answer to OP i shouldn't worry too much but remember it doesn't need to be too intense, working at 60% of your max heart rate for 40-50mins is fine

[aabbaa1980]

samdale said:

aabbaa1980 said:

Munter said:

I'm about the same age (30). As a comparison I hit 160 - 170 after 10 mins on the treadmill. But I'm only 70 KG. No real exercise to speak of for a long time (started at the gym again last week).

Not able to comment on what's good or bad. But so long as you're not having chest pain, seriously out of breath or feeling dizzy, and you're able to walk away and lift some weights afterwards. I wouldn't be too worried.

We're still young damnit!

Surprisingly no dizziness. I was training 6 monts ago and had dizziness but i am fine now as i have just restarted after 3months. Feela bit lightheaded after the 40mins cardio but disappears quickly.

My aim is to drop down to 80-85kg. I need to lose15+ kg. I hae already lost 2-3kg in 1 week.

I am on a maximuscle diet plan. started last week.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 10:32

that is quite a lot of weight in 1 week! im guessing some of it will be water but still, id aim for more like 1-2lbs a week tops otherwise you'll risk losing muscle as well.
to answer to OP i shouldn't worry too much but remember it doesn't need to be too intense, working at 60% of your max heart rate for 40-50mins is fine

This is my calculations:

3500 cals reduced is approx 1 pound lost.
1kg = 2.2 pounds.

Cals saved per week on diet plan 10500
Gym workout burns per week: 1800
Total saved in cals in week: 12300


pounds per week 3.5
kg per week 1.6
Kg per month 6.4

oh, its quite hard to get my heart rate to 60%. It would mean I would run at 6kmph. thats a fast walking pace. Looks lame in a gym when everyone is doing 10+kmph! I am struggling at 8! Trying to strengthen the heart muscle as well as develop my thigh muscles.

Focusing on lacs and thighs muscles as they are the largest in the body and hence help burn more cals.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 11:14

[aabbaa1980]

coyft said:

aabbaa1980 said:

My father had a heart attack at 42ish, and died.

I'm sure you have, but just in case you haven't ask your Doctor to check your blood pressure and cholesterol level. There is a condition called Familial hypercholesterolaemia which runs in families.

my cholesterol is slightly high. its 6.5 i think so I was told that it will reduce if i exercise and lose weight. That is what I am doing currently. Really changing my diet too. Only once a week junk (i.e pizza or a burger).

[shouldbworking]

Not related to the heart rate but whats your daily calorie intake with that loss? looks like you will have trouble keeping that up with that little intake to me.

[aabbaa1980]

shouldbworking said:

Not related to the heart rate but whats your daily calorie intake with that loss? looks like you will have trouble keeping that up with that little intake to me.

My cal intake has dropped to 1000 on a good day and 1500 on a bad day. saving a lot of cals a day.

-Breakfast Maximuscle diet shake 230 cals
-Lunch is a chicken brest sub sandwich (no cheese) and diet coke 400-500 cals
-Dinner maximuscle drink 230 cals.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 11:50

[996 sps]

Abba go to a search engine type in Karvonen Heart Rate Training and it will tell you all you need to know, its a generic method (i.e 220 minus your age) but it will be slightly more accurate as it will tell you to take away your resting heart rate to work out your percentages.

There are more science based answers but it will get you going, if you buy a Polar T31 coded band it will work with Tecnogym equipment and most Life Fitness Kit, around £15.

Again search engine that (T31 coded heart rate band) and just buy a band if your using gym kit.

[pmanson]

Are those heart rate monitors any good?

Like the OP I have similar health issues in my family and my chloestral is high.

I'm 5ft 7 and currently weighing in at 14 stone.

I've been back in the gym since the New Year and feel much better but I'm not convinced the weight is coming off as wuickly as possible.

Part of this is probably me not working myself hard enough (something I have been rectifying over the last couple of weeks).

I try and swim a couple of times a week and then get into the gym for some resistance training either once or twice a week.

I've also been trying to drink as much water as possible which helping with my hunger and watching what I eat.

I know it's not an over night process but i'm enjoying it!

[aabbaa1980]

pmanson said:

Are those heart rate monitors any good?

Like the OP I have similar health issues in my family and my chloestral is high.

I'm 5ft 7 and currently weighing in at 14 stone.

I've been back in the gym since the New Year and feel much better but I'm not convinced the weight is coming off as wuickly as possible.

Part of this is probably me not working myself hard enough (something I have been rectifying over the last couple of weeks).

I try and swim a couple of times a week and then get into the gym for some resistance training either once or twice a week.

I've also been trying to drink as much water as possible which helping with my hunger and watching what I eat.

I know it's not an over night process but i'm enjoying it!

well i am 3 inches taller but also 1.8 stones heavier!

I have to drop to 13.5 stones. currenty 15.8st

[superkartracer]

aabbaa1980 said:

Good morning chaps.

Got a question. I am quite unfit and have recently started training.

My heart rate jumps to 182-184 when I am running at 8kmph on the treadmill. I run for about 15-20mins tops.

I am 29 years old, male, 5'10, 100kg, I have a broad frame and i am over weight but it does not look it. I generally have done very little exercise over the past 3 years. Now i am trying to get back into shape.

Is 182bpm a bit worrying?

Morning, i'd have a checkup just to be sure as taking your heart to 184 ( at such a slow speed ) is near 100% and only for the very fit, you might have plaque build-up that could dislodge, best to work at around 140 and lose the weight.

I'm 35 and hit 185+ but thats running @ 13 - 17kph for 45 minutes! and recover back too 120 in less than 2 minutes, @ 8kph i'd prob still be around 80bpm ( did you type speed correct? )

Best to be safe and good luck!

S

[aabbaa1980]

superkartracer said:

aabbaa1980 said:

Good morning chaps.

Got a question. I am quite unfit and have recently started training.

My heart rate jumps to 182-184 when I am running at 8kmph on the treadmill. I run for about 15-20mins tops.

I am 29 years old, male, 5'10, 100kg, I have a broad frame and i am over weight but it does not look it. I generally have done very little exercise over the past 3 years. Now i am trying to get back into shape.

Is 182bpm a bit worrying?

Morning, i'd have a checkup just to be sure as taking your heart to 184 ( at such a slow speed ) is near 100% and only for the very fit, you might have plaque build-up that could dislodge, best to work at around 140 and lose the weight.

I'm 35 and hit 185+ but thats running @ 13 - 17kph for 45 minutes! and recover back too 120 in less than 2 minutes, @ 8kph i'd prob still be around 80bpm ( did you type speed correct? )

Best to be safe and good luck!

S

That sounds serious. Plague dislodge... sounds really bad!

I was 184 yesterday at the gym at 8kph. 3 weeks ago I did a random run and was 173 bpm at 8kph for 20 minutes.

4 years ago i was road-running 5 miles in 40-45 minutes (11-12kpm). I was 13.5 stones (85kg).

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 15:50

[okgo]

aabbaa1980 said:

shouldbworking said:

Not related to the heart rate but whats your daily calorie intake with that loss? looks like you will have trouble keeping that up with that little intake to me.

My cal intake has dropped to 1000 on a good day and 1500 on a bad day. saving a lot of cals a day.

-Breakfast Maximuscle diet shake 230 cals
-Lunch is a chicken brest sub sandwich (no cheese) and diet coke 400-500 cals
-Dinner maximuscle drink 230 cals.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 11:50

Whatever weight you lose will be coming right back when you start eating properly again.

That diet is ridiculous.

[aabbaa1980]

okgo said:

aabbaa1980 said:

shouldbworking said:

Not related to the heart rate but whats your daily calorie intake with that loss? looks like you will have trouble keeping that up with that little intake to me.

My cal intake has dropped to 1000 on a good day and 1500 on a bad day. saving a lot of cals a day.

-Breakfast Maximuscle diet shake 230 cals
-Lunch is a chicken brest sub sandwich (no cheese) and diet coke 400-500 cals
-Dinner maximuscle drink 230 cals.

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 11:50

Whatever weight you lose will be coming right back when you start eating properly again.

That diet is ridiculous.

Its more of a work out plan. I am getting in all my Daily allowance. Who knows if i will go back to my 105kg! If i can drop my weight down to 85kg I will train harder to maintain it when I eat properly.

[Swilly]

Add this....

aabbaa1980 said:

Got a question. I am quite unfit and have recently started training.

to this....

aabbaa1980 said:

My training consists of:

-15-20minute run at 8kmph
-20mins cross trainner
-12*5 50kg lifts on the thights (sitting down machine where you raise legs to lift weights)
-12*5 40kg lac weights machine which as a bar you pull down.
- 12*5 80kg pulling of weights when sitting down. works out chect and arms.
-12*5 40kg tri-cip machine.

Takes me 1.5+ hrs and i do it twice/3 times a week.

will lead to this.....

[superkartracer]

aabbaa1980 said:

superkartracer said:

aabbaa1980 said:

Good morning chaps.

Got a question. I am quite unfit and have recently started training.

My heart rate jumps to 182-184 when I am running at 8kmph on the treadmill. I run for about 15-20mins tops.

I am 29 years old, male, 5'10, 100kg, I have a broad frame and i am over weight but it does not look it. I generally have done very little exercise over the past 3 years. Now i am trying to get back into shape.

Is 182bpm a bit worrying?

Morning, i'd have a checkup just to be sure as taking your heart to 184 ( at such a slow speed ) is near 100% and only for the very fit, you might have plaque build-up that could dislodge, best to work at around 140 and lose the weight.

I'm 35 and hit 185+ but thats running @ 13 - 17kph for 45 minutes! and recover back too 120 in less than 2 minutes, @ 8kph i'd prob still be around 80bpm ( did you type speed correct? )

Best to be safe and good luck!

S

That sounds serious. Plague dislodge... sounds really bad!

I was 184 yesterday at the gym at 8kph. 3 weeks ago I did a random run and was 173 bpm at 8kph for 20 minutes.

4 years ago i was road-running 5 miles in 40-45 minutes (11-12kpm). I was 13.5 stones (85kg).

Edited by aabbaa1980 on Monday 25th January 15:50

Plaque even ha ha, chap i know is in a wheelchair via a stroke! he was 32 and fit so best to check, but if you have been fit in the past you should be fine, but worth a checkup