Sons trying to get into dental school

Sons trying to get into dental school

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telecat

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8,528 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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He's in the last year of A levels and doing well. We've had an interview with Liverpool but He applied to Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield as well and has been turned down for Interview at Leeds and Manchester. He is particularly upset as Leeds is close to home and was his preferred choice.

What's th esituation with Dental schools and UCAS clearing? Obviously He has still to hear from Sheffield and is waiting to see if He can get a place at Liverpool but what happens if he gets no offers??

Lois

14,706 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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I don't see why they wouldn't have clearing. I changed my mind about which university I wanted to go to and got in to my preferred choice through clearing, and that opened up another space at the other university.
Central Lancashire has a relatively new dental school as well.

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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keep hassling them....show your keen. good interview essential...is new course in Lancs for post grads like the plymouth one.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

181 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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As above, Badger Leeds. A friend of mine wanted to go to Loughborough and failed to get in, phoned every day asking if any vacancies had opened up until I'm guessing they snapped and said he could have a place. Doesn't hurt to try.

Lois

14,706 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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Ah, just looked and it is post grad. They never said that during any of the advertising!!

Vron

2,538 posts

216 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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telecat said:
He's in the last year of A levels and doing well. We've had an interview with Liverpool but He applied to Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield as well and has been turned down for Interview at Leeds and Manchester. He is particularly upset as Leeds is close to home and was his preferred choice.

What's th esituation with Dental schools and UCAS clearing? Obviously He has still to hear from Sheffield and is waiting to see if He can get a place at Liverpool but what happens if he gets no offers??
My Sis is a Dentist and I toyed with the idea of going back and retraining.

The criteria now (from the trainees that go through her practice) is apparently straight A*'s at GCSE and A Level, plus some type of work experience plus some sort of gap year helping the needy in Africa or the like to even be considered as places are so rare.

Jer_1974

1,558 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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As said it's very tough to get in. If he really wants to get into dental school get him to phone your local dentist and ask if he can go in one afternoon a week for work placement. I had some school kids do that with us and got a place at dental school.

Edited by Jer_1974 on Wednesday 13th January 18:29

Rach*

8,824 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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I was thinking of re-training in a moment of madness earlier this week hehe

I read about the entry ... A-level grades at least AAB, maths and chemistry a must, volunteer work and community spirit, good dexterity demonstration


If he doesn't get in immediately how about a years access course until he can apply again?

http://www.col-westanglia.ac.uk/atm-content.html

Best of luck to him thumbup

If I was still oop North he could have spent a day with me, I'm sure one of our friendly PH dentists would let him

pauldavies85

423 posts

193 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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To be completely honest clearing is kinda out of the question due to the amount of applicants, if anything dental schools are struggling with the amount of uptake they get anyway. For example, GKT (london) had to bump some people off for a year as the uptake was too big a few years back.

Best option if no luck this year, take year out get some useful experience and re-apply next year. The key to it all is having a strong interview.


telecat

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8,528 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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He's spent about a couple of weeks with dentists in the summer which he really enjoyed. Seems quite funny really. The NHS complain about not enough Dentists but they can't fit in all who want to train!!

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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thats a uni thing...not NHS. Leeds this year will produce 90 graduates compared to 60 this year. NHS needs to find these kids training places...and the suitable trainers...
Know one lad who didnt get offer but did get grades. He worked as volunteer at hospital and got 3 offers following year. Hes now first year trainee.

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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telecat said:
The NHS complain about not enough Dentists but they can't fit in all who want to train!!
Is dental school funded the same way as medical school? As most dentists seem to only want to do private work why should the NHS fund dental schools.

telecat

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Thursday 14th January 2010
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jagracer said:
telecat said:
The NHS complain about not enough Dentists but they can't fit in all who want to train!!
Is dental school funded the same way as medical school? As most dentists seem to only want to do private work why should the NHS fund dental schools.
I believe they are "tied" to the NHS for a number of years before they can go Private. Typical really of the Labour government, create a problem by underfunding and undertraining then "blame" the profession for not wanting to work ridiculous hours to compensate. For example the majority of Medical students spend a number of years working in Hospitals doing hours even the most ardent capitalist wouldn't do in order to get seniority and a good position as a GP or Hospital consultant.

Edited by telecat on Thursday 14th January 11:19

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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jagracer said:
telecat said:
The NHS complain about not enough Dentists but they can't fit in all who want to train!!
Is dental school funded the same way as medical school? As most dentists seem to only want to do private work why should the NHS fund dental schools.


your taxes fund education ...so any graduate doesnt have to do community work to pay for their time at uni. accountants, science, languages etc

medics are not tied to NHS..but need it to further training.

Lucie W

3,473 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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As already said, medical, dental and vet schools all but never bother with clearing, as they have so many applicants that they don't need to scrounge around to find extra students through clearing. When I applied to my medical school 3 years ago, there were 12 applicants to every place. I believe dentistry is just as competitive.

Getting an interview is the hardest part - if you can do this then you have a good chance of showing them what you've got.

ETA - if he doesn't get a place this time round, and it's what he definitely wants to do in life, he should take a year out, earn some money doing something relevent so that it looks good on his UCAS form, and reapply. Plenty of people get in from their second application.



Edited by Lucie W on Thursday 14th January 23:32

wiffmaster

2,608 posts

205 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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For an ultra-competitive course like Dentistry, the chances of a good offer from clearing are slight.

What are his predicted grades? If I were him, I'd seriously consider a Gap Year. Take a year out and spend at least the first half gaining some relevant work experience/volunteering. Doesn't have to be 100% dental specific - anything that shows people skills and a degree of responsibility will go down well with the Uni.

Then, re-apply the following year on the strength of actual grades and some relevant experience. Much more likely to get an interview and place at his desired Uni. I know a chap who got 0/6 offers when he first applied (despite AAA prediction and achievement). Did what I described above and then got 6/6 offers the following year and is now at Oxford. It's a funny system with a large degree of luck involved and you have to know how to play it!

Hope all goes well for him. Oh, and get him to come to Manchester - we're brilliant.yes

Edited by wiffmaster on Friday 15th January 00:03

telecat

Original Poster:

8,528 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Thanks to all those who replied. He's pretty settled on a year out earning and gaining experience if Liverpool does not offer him a place. Seems like He has done well to get the interview at this stage so He must be doing something right!

Flanders.

6,395 posts

215 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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If he can't get into a Dental School tell him to have a look at becoming a Dental Tech. I'm training for it now and its a fairly interesting job with good pay.

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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Is there any other route that can be taken into dentistry? Before my daughter got into med school she said she would have done a degree in bio chemistry (I think)then onto a fast track med course if she hadn't got a place.
It also seems it's never too late to start as on her course there are among other things, ex dentists and a couple of students who are in their mid 40s.
The only thing to be careful about is that I believe if you are doing a second degree course you don't get the subsidised fees and some are paying £20K per year.

MacGee

2,513 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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do a medical science degree and apply to the two new uni's....plymouth and lancaster for a dental course...