Steroids - Who's used them?
Discussion
I've been training 3 times a week now for the last 2 and a half years. After a year and a half using Creatine, I switched to whey protein at the beginning of last year and have noticed quite a big difference.
I'm starting to wonder what the advantages/disadvantages of using steroids over protein could possibly be, I'm interested to take a straw poll of who has actually tried using them and whether all the horror stories correct? More out of curiosity than anything.
I'm starting to wonder what the advantages/disadvantages of using steroids over protein could possibly be, I'm interested to take a straw poll of who has actually tried using them and whether all the horror stories correct? More out of curiosity than anything.
Never have, never will. The side effects out way the benifits in my opinion. It is just not worth it. Building muscle naturally is perfectly healthy for your body, it does no harm. Steroids cross the line, It can become addictive, increases aggression, increase your chance of Gyno, and affects both your wedding veg and performance!
Edited by JakeS on Monday 4th January 16:18
Apart form the fact if you get caught with them, you'll get your botty smacked, then heavy use will lead to you getting tits, your nuts will shrink, you'll get serious anger issues and spend a small fortune on them, but you will grow and get stronger with the right training which sounds like you are going in the right direction already.
I havent personally used them, but i did train with someone who had a heavy useage issue, and he definately had rage issues, and was starting to get tits. For me, i think the best way forward would be to consume more food and supplements and seek some decent help regarding training your muscle fibres which should(in theory) help you to get stronger, HTH
I havent personally used them, but i did train with someone who had a heavy useage issue, and he definately had rage issues, and was starting to get tits. For me, i think the best way forward would be to consume more food and supplements and seek some decent help regarding training your muscle fibres which should(in theory) help you to get stronger, HTH
Four of my friends were gym adicts. Years ago, two started to take steriods, two didn't.
Of the two who did? They are now rage infected, paranoid social drug users with an ever reducing circle of friends.
The two who didn't? Both stand up guys, one is the healthiest and fittest person I know, the other doesn't train anymore.
It comes down to will power, attitude and damm hard work. Don't take drugs, you'll end up an idiot.
Of the two who did? They are now rage infected, paranoid social drug users with an ever reducing circle of friends.
The two who didn't? Both stand up guys, one is the healthiest and fittest person I know, the other doesn't train anymore.
It comes down to will power, attitude and damm hard work. Don't take drugs, you'll end up an idiot.
Meatball is essentially correct, however, IIRC some of the more popular ones are vetenary(spelling) ones anyway, for instance deca durabolin is for horses as is testavit(i think) but as meatball stated, a lot are counterfeit. IIRC about 15 years ago in the states, a national level competitor went to inject what he thought was a bottle of Winstrol inot his thigh, it turned out it was Easy Off(whatever that is) and he lost about 1.2kg of muscle of said leg, so it really isnt worth the potential risk for the gains you will make, as even with steroids you still need to lift a fair bit of weight, they arent miracle drugs. HTH
Hmmm where to start...
I've completed 2 cycles in the past and it's been a year since i last touched em.
First cycle involved me buying a load of gear off the web with little research, i felt the onset of gyno (b
h tits) and suffered from shrunken nuts. Was also loosing hair at a faster than normal rate (i've been receading since my late teens anyway)
On the plus side around 4 weeks into a 10 week cycle my strengh went through the roof and was gaining quality muscle at a fast rate. Kept most of the gains after coming off.
Never once suffered from roid rage.
For the second cycle i joined a well known bodybuilding forum with lots of fellas who are both pro and against roid use. Masses and masses of information on the correct way to do a cycle. bh tits can be avoided by use of anti estrogens, and shrunken nuts can be avoided by use of HCG. Hair loss seems to be unavoidable though unless you want to spend £££'s.
Couldn't beleve how stupid i was going into the first cycle not knowing anything. This seems to be where a big proportion of people fall over, you can seriously harm yourself with these powerful hormones.
Not recommending you try them, it's a big decition not to be taken lightly, you should join a bb forum and put the research hours in. I stopped after the second cycle as i want a lean look and my missus isn't into bald men!
Again with the second cycle never once suffered from rage. The bb's i know also don't suffer. Not disputing anything any of the other posts have said, but it's a well over hyped myth imo.
First are foremost, PCT (post cycle therapy) is more important than the steroid cycle itself. Do the research.
Main things that would be on my mind is,
Hairloss,
Increased cholesterol levels when on cycle,
Expense,
Social stigma (see above posts)
Whether of not to tell the missus, and dealing with the consequences of them finding out if you keep it from them.
If your starting a family/want to add then best not bother (although i know quite a few that have concieved when on cycle)
That the tip of a huge iceberg, ive missed off loads.
I've completed 2 cycles in the past and it's been a year since i last touched em.
First cycle involved me buying a load of gear off the web with little research, i felt the onset of gyno (b
h tits) and suffered from shrunken nuts. Was also loosing hair at a faster than normal rate (i've been receading since my late teens anyway)On the plus side around 4 weeks into a 10 week cycle my strengh went through the roof and was gaining quality muscle at a fast rate. Kept most of the gains after coming off.
Never once suffered from roid rage.
For the second cycle i joined a well known bodybuilding forum with lots of fellas who are both pro and against roid use. Masses and masses of information on the correct way to do a cycle. b
h tits can be avoided by use of anti estrogens, and shrunken nuts can be avoided by use of HCG. Hair loss seems to be unavoidable though unless you want to spend £££'s.Couldn't beleve how stupid i was going into the first cycle not knowing anything. This seems to be where a big proportion of people fall over, you can seriously harm yourself with these powerful hormones.
Not recommending you try them, it's a big decition not to be taken lightly, you should join a bb forum and put the research hours in. I stopped after the second cycle as i want a lean look and my missus isn't into bald men!
Again with the second cycle never once suffered from rage. The bb's i know also don't suffer. Not disputing anything any of the other posts have said, but it's a well over hyped myth imo.
First are foremost, PCT (post cycle therapy) is more important than the steroid cycle itself. Do the research.
Main things that would be on my mind is,
Hairloss,
Increased cholesterol levels when on cycle,
Expense,
Social stigma (see above posts)
Whether of not to tell the missus, and dealing with the consequences of them finding out if you keep it from them.
If your starting a family/want to add then best not bother (although i know quite a few that have concieved when on cycle)
That the tip of a huge iceberg, ive missed off loads.
I did years ago when i was 18/19....trained with a guy who was very knowledgeable and respected (olymipic level sports coach) and never went mad. Got bigger, trained harder, felt fine....little stroppy at times but who isnt at 19!
Still have all my hair and had 4 kids since so that all works
That said.....what i know at 36 that i didnt at 19 is that 90% of women want a body that can be quite easily achieved in a gym without steroids. The only people that really appreciate a steroid body are other men into weights - and while its nice to have respect of fellow lifters, its not really worth any of the possible negatives of steroid use. With hindsight....a completely pointless exercise (although, at 19 i guess you make lots of pointless choices!)
Still have all my hair and had 4 kids since so that all works
That said.....what i know at 36 that i didnt at 19 is that 90% of women want a body that can be quite easily achieved in a gym without steroids. The only people that really appreciate a steroid body are other men into weights - and while its nice to have respect of fellow lifters, its not really worth any of the possible negatives of steroid use. With hindsight....a completely pointless exercise (although, at 19 i guess you make lots of pointless choices!)
Republik said:
I've been training 3 times a week now for the last 2 and a half years. After a year and a half using Creatine, I switched to whey protein at the beginning of last year and have noticed quite a big difference.
Steroids scare me tbh, so no help there, but I think you'd be better looking into supplementation properly. Creatine and protein can be taken together for instance. At a basic level, look into a pre-workout drink like NO-Xplode, Wired etc that contains creatine, then a protein shake for post workouts. Take at least one other shake of protein a day, then maybe some casein protein for just before bed. Add in a solid diet with lots of protein and you'll continue to improve.
A simple way to improve your training is to take a form of carbohydrate WITH your protein shake within 30 mins of finishing every workout. Most people only take a protein shake, where immediately after training your body needs carbs first then protein. If you no carbs are present then your body will convert the (expensive) protein into glucose........so quick tip, eat a banana with the shake!!
I dont use, but I suggest you make sure absolutely everything is as near as perfect before you run a cycle. Make sure you educate yourself on various substances, side effects and as mentioned PCT. Get on some website, see what people are running and recomending as beginer cycles, and cross reference it with other sites, theres plenty of people willing to help.
Why do you actually want to use? do you feel youve reached your natural potential or anything close?
Read read read and read some more.
Why do you actually want to use? do you feel youve reached your natural potential or anything close?
Read read read and read some more.
A lot of good info, thanks for the input. All pretty much confirming how I felt about steroids already. Although there can be good gains, the negative effects severly outweight the positive as far as I can see.
Another product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
Another product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
Republik said:
A lot of good info, thanks for the input. All pretty much confirming how I felt about steroids already. Although there can be good gains, the negative effects severly outweight the positive as far as I can see.
Another product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
GH is a naturally occuring hormone, i can only assume that what you are refering to is IGF-1, which is another steroidAnother product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
snowy slopes said:
Republik said:
A lot of good info, thanks for the input. All pretty much confirming how I felt about steroids already. Although there can be good gains, the negative effects severly outweight the positive as far as I can see.
Another product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
GH is a naturally occuring hormone, i can only assume that what you are refering to is IGF-1, which is another steroidAnother product I've seen mentioned on a few body building forums is Male growth hormones, which sounds potentially scarier. Does anyone know about these?
Then surely that has already answered your question. t all depends upon what you want to acheive, if you want to look like Ronnie coleman(8 times mr olympia) then you will need to use steroids to acheive the overall mass, if however you want to look like a cover model for say mens fitness magazine, then hard work and nutrition along with some good advice about training will suffice
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