mate drinking too much
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musclecarmad said:
there is a group of 3 of us and we all are 25. Now, we are known for none stop boozing especially when we were at Uni ie go out on a friday and come in on a sunday and not stop drinking and we still booze heavily on a saturday etc.
however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
You are all alcoholics - get professional help quickly. None of what you relate is 'normal' for someone of your age.however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
I'm about your age and go out hard most weekends, had 4 years of Uni which involved binge drinking 3-4 times a week. I'd be seriously s
tting myself if I started to get health problems like that! If I had a mate drinking as much as yours I'd be very concerned, not sure how I'd approach it though. Do your other friends see the problem too? Perhaps approach him together?
tting myself if I started to get health problems like that! If I had a mate drinking as much as yours I'd be very concerned, not sure how I'd approach it though. Do your other friends see the problem too? Perhaps approach him together?
musclecarmad said:
however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
Are you lot nuts? If I ever got to the point where I was in physical pain from drinking then I'd be taking some SERIOUS steps...musclecarmad said:
OnTheOverrun said:
musclecarmad said:
there is a group of 3 of us and we all are 25. Now, we are known for none stop boozing especially when we were at Uni ie go out on a friday and come in on a sunday and not stop drinking and we still booze heavily on a saturday etc.
however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
You are all alcoholics - get professional help quickly. None of what you relate is 'normal' for someone of your age.however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
what I do want to know though is how to tell my mate to cool it during weekdays and daytimes which is too much in my opinion.
yes, i know some people don't like getting drunk at all which is fair enough but most people I know like to get drunk now and again - certainly on a saturday night in your twenties!
Learn how to spell and pronounce cirrhosis; if it hasn't been diagnosed yet, it soon will be if you continue boozing that hard. Your and your mates' livers are ticking timebombs. Then there's all the other potential unpleasantness like brewer's droop, purple tramp face, and cancers of the mouth, tongue, oesophagus, stomach and liver. Cheers! Merry Christmas all.
musclecarmad said:
right guys,
there is a group of 3 of us and we all are 25. Now, we are known for none stop boozing especially when we were at Uni ie go out on a friday and come in on a sunday and not stop drinking and we still booze heavily on a saturday etc.
however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
so, to cut a long story short, we went out on Tuesday night and I drink weak lager but he drinks stella - he'd had about 5 in the pub all day and then we went out so prob another 10 pints and many shots of sambuca. At 3am I get in a taxi with them and go home - my other two mates go back to his and have another 3 bottles of stella each. A bog standard night you would think - as most in their 20s booze a lot.
however i call him wed am and he is in the pub AGAIN at about 11 ish/12 ish on the stella - still drunk - he then goes to his family xmas gathering on wed and drinks brandy/whisky till the early hours - and i'm not exaggerating when I say he'll easily do half a bottle in no time. He was hungover to buggery on thursday.
I ring him on thursday and yes, you guessed it he's in the pub again on stella and asks me to join him - i decline as I work in the day and don't drink in the day and don't feel like a drink still after the heavy sesh on tuesday night. He then ploughs on all day and I pick him up at 10pm to nip into town for a few xmas beers - he is so smashed he can't speak properly or make any sense but I arranged to meet a girl I know in town to try to get him 'hooked up' and he is too drunk for it. Drop him home at midnight after being with me he had 4 pints of stella, 5 sambucas and a shot of something off the shots girl - he was so pissed he fell over when he got out of the car.
this morning I get a text around 10am saying he's on the stella again - so that's tuesay afternoon to today non stop boozing and I know he'll be at the pub again tonight and all day tomorrow - I don't think i'll have a beer till new years now.
I try tell him but he thinks i'm being sad/boring etc. Don't get me wrong on lads holidays i'm never not without a beer in my hand etc and I drink more than most but this is just going overboard - its non stop. He's single and whenever I try to hook him up with a girl he gets so drunk the girl just isn't impressed.
what do I do/say? I don't know why he is doing this but I hate having a drink in the day as I have too much work to do and don't like not being compus mentis - if I have a big night on the Sat I can't drink for days but he is just non stop boozing like you wouldn't believe.
is it showing off?
is it boredom?
is it nothing else to do?
Is it an alcoholic?
I have to say he lives in Scotland so has just come back for xmas but it seems like every spare minute he isn't working he is boozing.
I'm not sure when we go out in his car if he hasn't had 3 pints already as he hides it so well.
thoughts please?
when he starts going for naked runs in surrey parks in 10 years time .....just call him Ollie there is a group of 3 of us and we all are 25. Now, we are known for none stop boozing especially when we were at Uni ie go out on a friday and come in on a sunday and not stop drinking and we still booze heavily on a saturday etc.
however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations.
so, to cut a long story short, we went out on Tuesday night and I drink weak lager but he drinks stella - he'd had about 5 in the pub all day and then we went out so prob another 10 pints and many shots of sambuca. At 3am I get in a taxi with them and go home - my other two mates go back to his and have another 3 bottles of stella each. A bog standard night you would think - as most in their 20s booze a lot.
however i call him wed am and he is in the pub AGAIN at about 11 ish/12 ish on the stella - still drunk - he then goes to his family xmas gathering on wed and drinks brandy/whisky till the early hours - and i'm not exaggerating when I say he'll easily do half a bottle in no time. He was hungover to buggery on thursday.
I ring him on thursday and yes, you guessed it he's in the pub again on stella and asks me to join him - i decline as I work in the day and don't drink in the day and don't feel like a drink still after the heavy sesh on tuesday night. He then ploughs on all day and I pick him up at 10pm to nip into town for a few xmas beers - he is so smashed he can't speak properly or make any sense but I arranged to meet a girl I know in town to try to get him 'hooked up' and he is too drunk for it. Drop him home at midnight after being with me he had 4 pints of stella, 5 sambucas and a shot of something off the shots girl - he was so pissed he fell over when he got out of the car.
this morning I get a text around 10am saying he's on the stella again - so that's tuesay afternoon to today non stop boozing and I know he'll be at the pub again tonight and all day tomorrow - I don't think i'll have a beer till new years now.
I try tell him but he thinks i'm being sad/boring etc. Don't get me wrong on lads holidays i'm never not without a beer in my hand etc and I drink more than most but this is just going overboard - its non stop. He's single and whenever I try to hook him up with a girl he gets so drunk the girl just isn't impressed.
what do I do/say? I don't know why he is doing this but I hate having a drink in the day as I have too much work to do and don't like not being compus mentis - if I have a big night on the Sat I can't drink for days but he is just non stop boozing like you wouldn't believe.
is it showing off?
is it boredom?
is it nothing else to do?
Is it an alcoholic?
I have to say he lives in Scotland so has just come back for xmas but it seems like every spare minute he isn't working he is boozing.
I'm not sure when we go out in his car if he hasn't had 3 pints already as he hides it so well.
thoughts please?
OP you are right to worry about your mate. He is an alcoholic, but it'll be difficult to help him till he accepts it. Maybe contact AA and see if they have any tips.
But, I'd also worry about yourself. The sort of amounts you mention aren't normal for people in their 20's, certainly amongst my mates anyway.
Don't get me wrong, if my mates are on a real session then we binge pretty badly, mixing drinks and have a few beers, couple of glasses of wine and close to a bottle of spirits each. But this is probably every 2-3 months at most and even then I feel like death afterwards.
But, I'd also worry about yourself. The sort of amounts you mention aren't normal for people in their 20's, certainly amongst my mates anyway.
Don't get me wrong, if my mates are on a real session then we binge pretty badly, mixing drinks and have a few beers, couple of glasses of wine and close to a bottle of spirits each. But this is probably every 2-3 months at most and even then I feel like death afterwards.
hidetheelephants said:
Learn how to spell and pronounce cirrhosis; if it hasn't been diagnosed yet, it soon will be if you continue boozing that hard. Your and your mates' livers are ticking timebombs. Then there's all the other potential unpleasantness like brewer's droop, purple tramp face, and cancers of the mouth, tongue, oesophagus, stomach and liver. Cheers! Merry Christmas all.
And then with the amount the OP and his mates are putting away there is a serious danger of the real neuopathic nasties, Wernicke's encephalopathy and Korsakoff's psychosis. "however now I am ill due to years of boozing and so is my other mate - he falls over due to liver pains when he has been boozing. My other mate still boozes heavily and only gets mild shakes etc and has now started having palpitations"
Liver pains? shakes? You haven't mentioned what your illness is but anything is too much.
Firstly, that's not normal, most guys BS about how much they drink to show how hard they are, social drinking is one thing, but trying to cram as much alcohol as possible is something entirely different.
Whilst it may be fun now, there will be three possible outcomes.
1) you cut down severely and grow up. You'll carry on with a normal life, but there is a good chance that's going to be hard.
2) You die from liver failure
3) You realise you can't control yourself, and wave goodbye to drinking ever again. No more pubs, no more beer.
Option 2 is obviously bad, 3 is liveable, but you are going to miss out on so much of your lifestyle it's not going to be fun, when ever there is a party or similar, you'll have to tell people that you can't go down the pub as your are a recovering alcoholic who can't be trusted near a beer tap.
1 looks the best, and you can shove one chapter of your life behind you, but you'll need to make an effort, and that's a real effort, not just lip service and going to the pub half an hour later than usual. You might not even be able to go through with a cut down, there probably is a lot of damage already done, but it's either that, die from it, or kiss goodbye to drinking forever.
The people who are impressed by tales of all day sessions aren't the kind of people you want to impress.
You may think your taking a lot of flak here, but certainly your 2 mates are in trouble, and depending on whatever health problems you have, you could be in the same boat.
I've known quite a few people die from drinking, people who would be heading to the pub every night, spend all weekend in the pub, and even start at 6am with a cold can of lager heading to work.
They'll usually disappear off radar for a year maybe, and the next time you hear their name is when someone tells you they are dead.
It's hard trying to get my point over without crossing the line and making it look like overdramatic crap which gets ignored, but now's the time to say to yourself, lets start the new year by cutting back.
I guess you've got to pass on this sort of sentiment to the other two, let them know that getting the shakes and liver pain is very serious, and that isn't going to be easy, but you can't carry on at that pace.
Liver pains? shakes? You haven't mentioned what your illness is but anything is too much.
Firstly, that's not normal, most guys BS about how much they drink to show how hard they are, social drinking is one thing, but trying to cram as much alcohol as possible is something entirely different.
Whilst it may be fun now, there will be three possible outcomes.
1) you cut down severely and grow up. You'll carry on with a normal life, but there is a good chance that's going to be hard.
2) You die from liver failure
3) You realise you can't control yourself, and wave goodbye to drinking ever again. No more pubs, no more beer.
Option 2 is obviously bad, 3 is liveable, but you are going to miss out on so much of your lifestyle it's not going to be fun, when ever there is a party or similar, you'll have to tell people that you can't go down the pub as your are a recovering alcoholic who can't be trusted near a beer tap.
1 looks the best, and you can shove one chapter of your life behind you, but you'll need to make an effort, and that's a real effort, not just lip service and going to the pub half an hour later than usual. You might not even be able to go through with a cut down, there probably is a lot of damage already done, but it's either that, die from it, or kiss goodbye to drinking forever.
The people who are impressed by tales of all day sessions aren't the kind of people you want to impress.
You may think your taking a lot of flak here, but certainly your 2 mates are in trouble, and depending on whatever health problems you have, you could be in the same boat.
I've known quite a few people die from drinking, people who would be heading to the pub every night, spend all weekend in the pub, and even start at 6am with a cold can of lager heading to work.
They'll usually disappear off radar for a year maybe, and the next time you hear their name is when someone tells you they are dead.
It's hard trying to get my point over without crossing the line and making it look like overdramatic crap which gets ignored, but now's the time to say to yourself, lets start the new year by cutting back.
I guess you've got to pass on this sort of sentiment to the other two, let them know that getting the shakes and liver pain is very serious, and that isn't going to be easy, but you can't carry on at that pace.
musclecarmad said:
I'm not sure when we go out in his car if he hasn't had 3 pints already as he hides it so well.
Even if he has nothing to drink the day before he gets into the car, he is probably well over the limit from the previous day. I went to bed at 12 o'clock at Black Tie & Pie and was still twice over the limit at 11am the next day. That amount of alcohol takes a long time to get out of the system. Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff