Protein supplements?

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Shinobi

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197 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Hi guys

Newbie question here, im tempted to try some protein supplements into my daily intake as i currently do pyramid workouts and am getting some pretty good gains i would say, 3 months and ive doubled what i can bench wahoo. Ive heard a few basic rules and didn't know if this was accurate.

1. Powders are better then tablets?
2. You need 100% whey protein?
3. You need 1g of protein for every lb of body weight?

Any tips of what types to try? Ive heard Maxi Muscle Pro max is good but are there any alternatives?

Sorry all hear say what i have heard and i thought i would ask on here for some tips.

Edited by Shinobi on Monday 23 November 12:15

CHIEF

2,270 posts

289 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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CNP is imo by far the best.

Pro-Peptide and Pro-recover is brilliant.

Vlad.

1,086 posts

224 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Shinobi said:
Hi guysm
That's not very nice!

Shinobi

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197 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Vlad. said:
Shinobi said:
Hi guysm
That's not very nice!
Oops, edited now

Bob Fossil

954 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Depending on what results you are after there are several products that could be recommended. If it's a general growth / recovery / power supplement you need then I would recommend a product called TTP by NRGfuel (I think? It's been a while...) - it is a combination of protein, creatine and other essential muscle-building / recovery supplements (i.e. aminos / glutamine etc).

It's slightly more expensive (and the taste isn't all that) but the results (for me anyway) were excellent - my 10-rep max jumped 30% over the course of a month.

HTH

BF

Animal

5,335 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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[quote=Shinobi]Hi guys

Newbie question here, im tempted to try some protein supplements into my daily intake as i currently do pyramid workouts and am getting some pretty good gains i would say, 3 months and ive doubled what i can bench wahoo. Ive heard a few basic rules and didn't know if this was accurate.

1. Powders are better then tablets?
2. You need 100% whey protein?
3. You need 1g of protein for every lb of body weight?

Any tips of what types to try? Ive heard Maxi Muscle Pro max is good but are there any alternatives?

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1) Tuna is better than powder!
2) Whey protein is generally of a higher quality (IIRC) and is low in lactose, which is a good thing if you're lactose intolerant like me!
3) Approx. 0.75 - 1g per lb of bodyweight is a good guide, but carbohydrates are just as important, and your carb intake should be approx. double your protein intake.

As always, make the adjustments slowly and gradually increase your intake until you reach the level at which you function best.

Maximuscle are good: tasty, but expensive. There are a million and one other nutrition companies out there. Personally, I use myprotein.co.uk: cheap, tasty and they deliver quickly!

Remember though: it's almost always better to get your nutrition from natural sources, not packets of dried stuff...

NB: If you're hungry you're not eating enough!

Best,

Animal

Mongoose

92 posts

188 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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For whey protein, I'd recommend Reflex brand, strawberry flavour preferably. Easy to mix and tastes good as well, even with water.

jenkotvr

688 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/782/1/PhD-Nu...

This is by far the best IMHO.....Ive been training for 10 years and have tried pretty much everything on the market..

PHD I have found is up there with the best, no bloat, Choc mint is too die for and its nicer with water than milk which is a big bonus if you are carb sense!

Give it ago, im sure with the right diet it will work for you!

Oh by the way, i am in no way linked to monster or PHD biggrin

Stu R

21,410 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Sci MX or PHD choc mint, they are the daddios(though I find the former better tasting).

Wildfire

9,831 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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As said before Maximuscle is expensive, but widely available. I started with Maxi-Muscle Cyclone.

PhD tastes great, the ISO-7 is (IMHO) not as good as Cyclone.

I've just started buying from myprotein.co.uk

Taste's nowhere as good as PhD, but then there's not a load of Dextrose in it (I am going to add some) and CEE is the foulest tasting substance known. But it is cheap and very good quality, and therefore good value for money.

Maxymillion

489 posts

231 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Whey = Fast release. Best for immediately after training or first thing in the morning pre-cardio.

Casein = Slow release. Best for last 'meal' of the day, pre-bed, for release during the night.

Blend = Exactly that. A mix of wheys and caseinates to provide both a fast and slow release of protein into the system. Best taken in place of a meal during the day.

POW! Thats what you need to know.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

250 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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I've been looking around and have tried most of them and for the most part they are a much of muchness.

However Muscle milk is something else when it comes to taste! Damn it's like drinking milkshakes, I love the cookies and cream one.

I can see why this is one of the biggest selling protien drinks in America.

Colonial

13,553 posts

212 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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I use Horleys Crossfire. NZ company. Best for me without a doubt.

Only use it post workout though.

bing

1,921 posts

245 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Optimum Nutrition - Optimum Whey!!!

topless_mx5

2,763 posts

225 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.

Maximuscle is very overpriced and there is much better stuff out there. I use myprotein.co.uk and buy the True Whey stuff. It has all your essential amino acids in too.

As a general rule, if you are lifting heavy weights you should have near 2g of protein per lb of weight per day.

bales

1,905 posts

225 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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topless_mx5 said:
Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.
The long term effects of creatine supplementation are unknown at the moment. Certainly in the short term there has been no major side effects but there hasn't been any studies yet on prolonged long term usage.

Like anything though its about applying common sense, once you reach a certain level of creatine in your body you cannot use the additional so it is wasted. Which is why they usually recommend cycling for 8 week or so, when you come off it there is more than enough residual for your creatine levels to stay high until the next cycle.

Edited by bales on Friday 27th November 13:37

Shinobi

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5,076 posts

197 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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topless_mx5 said:
Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.

Maximuscle is very overpriced and there is much better stuff out there. I use myprotein.co.uk and buy the True Whey stuff. It has all your essential amino acids in too.

As a general rule, if you are lifting heavy weights you should have near 2g of protein per lb of weight per day.
2g per lb? Ive read alot of places that says 1g but none that say 2g. Any reason for 2g per lb? Sorry new to all this and need to learn before i make mistakes.

bales

1,905 posts

225 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Shinobi said:
topless_mx5 said:
Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.

Maximuscle is very overpriced and there is much better stuff out there. I use myprotein.co.uk and buy the True Whey stuff. It has all your essential amino acids in too.

As a general rule, if you are lifting heavy weights you should have near 2g of protein per lb of weight per day.
2g per lb? Ive read alot of places that says 1g but none that say 2g. Any reason for 2g per lb? Sorry new to all this and need to learn before i make mistakes.
Sigghhh...just eat healthily and enjoy your training.

I really wouldn't bother with all that ste unless you become a body builder, you can become very strong and have a good physique without needing to spend through the nose on expensive products that have no benefit to you.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

250 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Shinobi said:
topless_mx5 said:
Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.

Maximuscle is very overpriced and there is much better stuff out there. I use myprotein.co.uk and buy the True Whey stuff. It has all your essential amino acids in too.

As a general rule, if you are lifting heavy weights you should have near 2g of protein per lb of weight per day.
2g per lb? Ive read alot of places that says 1g but none that say 2g. Any reason for 2g per lb? Sorry new to all this and need to learn before i make mistakes.
Actually most now reckon 1.5g per lb.

However upping it too two isn't a bad idea if you're trying to gain.

Shinobi

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5,076 posts

197 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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bales said:
Shinobi said:
topless_mx5 said:
Be careful of any supplements that contain creatine, as it can be damaging to your kidneys if taken consistently for long periods of time.

Maximuscle is very overpriced and there is much better stuff out there. I use myprotein.co.uk and buy the True Whey stuff. It has all your essential amino acids in too.

As a general rule, if you are lifting heavy weights you should have near 2g of protein per lb of weight per day.
2g per lb? Ive read alot of places that says 1g but none that say 2g. Any reason for 2g per lb? Sorry new to all this and need to learn before i make mistakes.
Sigghhh...just eat healthily and enjoy your training.

I really wouldn't bother with all that ste unless you become a body builder, you can become very strong and have a good physique without needing to spend through the nose on expensive products that have no benefit to you.
Thanks... really helpful there.