my diet... is it healthy? losing weight too..

my diet... is it healthy? losing weight too..

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Dupont666

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21,662 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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decided to lose a bit of the poundage around the gut.... So started cutting down the drink and started the exercise thing.

Now my diet is varied as i cook pretty much anything from scratch (pizza to curry) and never buy ready made stuff. But as I need to lose a bit I have changed to this diet:

Fruit or wheatabix (3 and skimmed milk) for breakfast

pasta with tomato/basil sauce with a little cheese (300-350g) for lunch with a few nuts (handful)

salad with chicken/tuna/pork and no dressing except juice from the oven cooked meat in herbs.

snacks are apples (1/2 a day)

drink is water and coffee (straight black or with sweetners.

mayeb one day off a week (weekend to have a meal of my choice)

so what do people think to it?
Should I change anything?
Ideally I want to shed 2-2 1/2 stone as im now 14 and a bit, how long would it take?

tricky69

1,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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I don't think pasta is great really... salad is better but otherwise diet sounds good, i would advise brown pasta for lunch so much better for you than white pasta. Maybe get some fish in there as well... porridge is good for breakfast as well, don't eat anything within the last 2 hours before you go to bed..

What are you doing for exercise ?

shakotan

10,767 posts

201 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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tricky69 said:
I don't think pasta is great really... salad is better but otherwise diet sounds good, i would advise brown pasta for lunch so much better for you than white pasta. Maybe get some fish in there as well... porridge is good for breakfast as well, don't eat anything within the last 2 hours before you go to bed..

What are you doing for exercise ?
You don't think pasta is great? Where's he supposed to get his carbs from?

I'd be wilting onto the floor come mid-afternoon if I'd had no carbs since breakfast!

tricky69

1,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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shakotan said:
tricky69 said:
I don't think pasta is great really... salad is better but otherwise diet sounds good, i would advise brown pasta for lunch so much better for you than white pasta. Maybe get some fish in there as well... porridge is good for breakfast as well, don't eat anything within the last 2 hours before you go to bed..

What are you doing for exercise ?
You don't think pasta is great? Where's he supposed to get his carbs from?

I'd be wilting onto the floor come mid-afternoon if I'd had no carbs since breakfast!
white pasta is not great, potatoes are better..

but to be honest it all differs from person to person doesn't it, what works for one will not work for someone else

mrmr96

13,736 posts

209 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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How old are you and how tall are you?

I reckon exercise will certainly help.

One of the things which I'm finding help quite a lot is a calorie tracking website or software. (I personally use The Daily Plate on Livestrong.com as it has an iPhone app which sync's to the site.) Basically what it is, is a website and iphone software which allow you to log what you've eaten. It links up to an internet database to get details on fat/carbs/calories etc. which is great because it means that you don't need to read the box of what you've eaten, you just search for it and it counts the calories for you.

By entering your sex, weight, height, exercise routine/activity level and weightloss goal it will work out how many calories to eat per day, and you get a little progress bar showing how many you've had and how many you can still eat to reach your daily goal.

It might not work for everyone, but I'm finding it helps me to keep a track on 'snacking'. So if I have, for example, a kit kat in the morning, then I won't have one in the evening too. (I used to tend to snack after dinner a lot, but this counter lets me know if I've already eaten my 'allowance' for the day by that point, or if I've still got some spare for a treat.)

It might not work for you, but it's been pretty good for me. One thing I will say, though, is that the livestrong.com site and iphone app are a bit buggy at times. So you might want to consider another site or something which does a similar job.

HTH.

shirt

23,104 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Dupont666 said:
I want to shed 2-2 1/2 stone as im now 14 and a bit, how long would it take?
i was 14.5 8 weeks ago, now 12st 12lbs. can now fit into a 32" waist again, though its started getting harder to shift now though. moobs are still there but they were always going to be the worst bit to get rid of. damn those years of kebabs!

exercise is a 5mile jog every other night, with the off day being the '100 pushups' routine. nothing heavy at all, i am really only starting to do the whole jog without stopping. on friday's i do a 2k swim instead of jogging. i do a lot of DIY which keeps me active throughout the evening/weekends. clearing the garden was the most exercise i've probably ever had, could hardly move all week!

food is:

breakfast - large handful of quality chopped dried fruit in low fat yoghurt. fridays i have a bacon & egg butty as a treat.

lunch - usually salad based - roast chicken with goats cheese or gran padano. no dressing as it makes the leaves soggy by lunchtime. will sometimes make sushi for lunch.

dinner - similar to you - curry, chinese, tagine etc. from scratch, just a smaller portion than the super mansize ones i used to have, and often with no rice.

have cut out carbs as far as i can but can't resist walking past the bakery. i will eat half a crusty loaf with butter & honey instead of a meal.

i still drink, averaging a botle of whiskey a week. if particularly bored/stressed i'll have a couple of bottles of red wine over a weekend. i seem to drink a lot of sugar free red bull [well tesco cheapy version thereof] and green tea has replaced my previous mammoth coffee intake at work.

its not been that hard tbh, main thing has been staving off the boredom when exercising. if i eat chocolate i'll do it properly and eat a full bar of green & blacks cherry, no point breaking the diet for a sodding mars bar.

i know my diet isn't the best but its fairly well balanced, has hardly anything 'processed' and most importantly its tasty and i like it. calories in seem to be a lot lower than calories out in any case.


Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,662 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Right....

30 years young

Im 5ft 10 and 14+ stone.

There is no such thing as ideal weight as im hockey rugby player shaped (been out of it for 7 months) and so even when fit I was still over weight (according to BMI, etc, which is the system being flawed and so went off % Body fat) as im stocky and quite muscular when i comes to legs, etc (hidden behind flab now) I will always be classed as stocky overwieght bugger even when not (think 250kg leg presses and 110kg bench presses) and acceleration training rather than long distance running....

Im going back to a bit of distance, mostly cardio to get rid of the flabby bits and basic weights with dumbells (I know all the routines to do a full body work out with just dumbells and own body weight)...

As for the diet, any other changes than porrige and brown pasta?

Would adding a few new potatoes to the salad on the evening and olives help?

I dont touch bread (home made pizza/treat dont count) or sugar if I can help it.

Edited by Dupont666 on Tuesday 23 June 16:38

Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,662 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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will also add that I will be doing some distance stuff later just need a nice easy exercise routine of morning (wakeup do exercise) then a similar batch in the evening to start with for the first 2-3 weeks and then on to the major runs and stuff...

(exercise to last 30-45mins initially and taken easy)

tricky69

1,696 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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You sound about the same as me mate, i am 27, 5'11'' and weight 14.4 at the minute... I have been cycling for quite a while and just upped it to 30 miles 5 times a week about 4 weeks ago. I used to play a lot of rugby as well hence the build.

Food wise i eat porridge/museli for breakfast and some brown toast

lunch is normally soup/pasta/tuna etc

about 3pm i have anouther bowl of museli

dinner at 6 is normally fish/chicken something fairly light, but do snack in the evening but nothing really bad

i think i am slightly under eating though as thats about 1800 calories on average and cycling 30 miles plus 30 minutes of weights in the morning i need to eat 4000 to maintain.. so should really be eating 2500 i think... oh well whatever i have not died yet

I think with current size i could lose maybe anouther 3/4 of a stone anything more than that will not be possible, 14 stone is going to be a bit of a barrier as well

but Good luck to you mate, i am in the same boat as you

Matt_N

8,911 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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300 - 350g of pasta is a massive amount of carbs and calories, something like 300kcal per 100g of pasta, a 900kcal lunch with a load of carbs is not the best way to be thinking about losing weight.

Dupont666

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21,662 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Matt_N said:
300 - 350g of pasta is a massive amount of carbs and calories, something like 300kcal per 100g of pasta, a 900kcal lunch with a load of carbs is not the best way to be thinking about losing weight.
You sure?

The package says 400-500cals on it and its the smallest size I can get for it. And 300g includes the sauce, the cheese and is the cooked weight of pasta.

Im cooking up 200-250g of fresh pasta and that is enough for 2 1/2 lunches, if I were to do the whole 500g bag of fresh pasta it would last all week and then some.


Matt_N

8,911 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Ah ok, I thought you meant 300g-350g of pasta going into your lunch.

On average pasta per 100g is:

300-400 calories
10-12g of protein
70-80g of carbs

200-250g for 2 1/2 lunches seems better!

Similar to what I have although I have one of these a mid morning meal and lunch, but then Im trying to add bulk:

100g of pasta
half a tin of tuna
100g of chick peas
spoonful of pesto

Gives me a nice helping of carbs, and around 35g of protein.

Edited by Matt_N on Wednesday 24th June 09:21

Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,662 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June 2009
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Matt_N said:
Ah ok, I thought you meant 300g-350g of pasta going into your lunch.

On average pasta per 100g is:

300-400 calories
10-12g of protein
70-80g of carbs
to give you a rough idea

The dish I use to keep the size down is bit smaller than a ben and jerrys tub or there abouts, but its never competely pack with pasta, so is similar to the 300g or so in weight