MMR - single v's separates.
Discussion
Why would you choose singles? Bear in mind that the first jabs sprogs get is 5 imms together.
My SWMBO is a GP and miniMechs has had the single MMR.
ETA: That's not meant to be as confontational as it sounds
My view is that there's no evidence the single MMR does any harm over and above any immunisation. And any risk involved is less than the risk from the diseases it'll protect against. Combine that with the pain from 6 jabs vs 2 and IMO the MMR is the only way forwards.
My SWMBO is a GP and miniMechs has had the single MMR.
ETA: That's not meant to be as confontational as it sounds
My view is that there's no evidence the single MMR does any harm over and above any immunisation. And any risk involved is less than the risk from the diseases it'll protect against. Combine that with the pain from 6 jabs vs 2 and IMO the MMR is the only way forwards.Edited by mechsympathy on Sunday 17th May 13:22
This has been done to death on here but just for emphasis (and with apologies for being grumpy post night-duties );
THERE. IS. ABSOLUTELY. NO. POINT. IN. INDIVIDUAL. MMR. JABS.
added to which; Efficacy is no different - risk is actually statistically higher for individual jabs (due to the lengthier period of time taken to complete all the jabs) and individual MMR vaccines are not licensed in the UK.
It is really not (and should never have been) an argument.
THERE. IS. ABSOLUTELY. NO. POINT. IN. INDIVIDUAL. MMR. JABS.
added to which; Efficacy is no different - risk is actually statistically higher for individual jabs (due to the lengthier period of time taken to complete all the jabs) and individual MMR vaccines are not licensed in the UK.
It is really not (and should never have been) an argument.
Reason is I've got two close relatives who both have sons that were supposedly damaged by the single. I'm very cynical about the claims but both I and SWMBO are getting battered by the grandparents so I have to go back with solid arguments other than (and meant with the greatest respect) a bloke on pistonheads said they were OK.
Unfortunatley everything I've read so far is sensationalist and not exactly helpful.
Unfortunatley everything I've read so far is sensationalist and not exactly helpful.
Okay, for the benefit of the grandparents;
The original claim by Andrew Wakefield that there was a link between combined MMR and autism/bowel problems has been utterly, utterly discredited - and as for his conclusion that individual vaccines were preferable, his own jointly researched paper didn't even suggest this and he was subsequently found to have manipulated and fixed the data to fit his own ends and had been receiving backhanders from 'litigiously interested parties' and, on top of this, has also subsequently faced charges of professional misconduct.
The spurious 'link' was actually regressive autism which has been known about for some time - way before the paper was published and the actual cause of autism is still to be isolated but is most likely genetically linked. According to all established, credible, evidence based research combined MMR has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Ten out the thirteen co-authors of the rubbished research paper retracted any conclusional claim on the part of the paper that there was any such time link between autism and MMR.
The combined MMR has a fantastic record of safety and efficacy- over 500 million doses successfully administered worldwide in over 100 countries.
The W.H.O. (who describe the combined MMR safety record as 'exemplary'), the NHS, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention and The Institute of Medicine all state there is NO link between combined MMR and autism.
The separate dose vaccines ARE NOT LICENSED in the UK. Think about it - there is no assurance of the quality, safety or efficacy of such products
By giving the doses separately you put the children at more risk for absolutely no benefit.
The original claim by Andrew Wakefield that there was a link between combined MMR and autism/bowel problems has been utterly, utterly discredited - and as for his conclusion that individual vaccines were preferable, his own jointly researched paper didn't even suggest this and he was subsequently found to have manipulated and fixed the data to fit his own ends and had been receiving backhanders from 'litigiously interested parties' and, on top of this, has also subsequently faced charges of professional misconduct.
The spurious 'link' was actually regressive autism which has been known about for some time - way before the paper was published and the actual cause of autism is still to be isolated but is most likely genetically linked. According to all established, credible, evidence based research combined MMR has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Ten out the thirteen co-authors of the rubbished research paper retracted any conclusional claim on the part of the paper that there was any such time link between autism and MMR.
The combined MMR has a fantastic record of safety and efficacy- over 500 million doses successfully administered worldwide in over 100 countries.
The W.H.O. (who describe the combined MMR safety record as 'exemplary'), the NHS, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention and The Institute of Medicine all state there is NO link between combined MMR and autism.
The separate dose vaccines ARE NOT LICENSED in the UK. Think about it - there is no assurance of the quality, safety or efficacy of such products
By giving the doses separately you put the children at more risk for absolutely no benefit.
The hype that there was was completely unfounded, it was one study that was poorly conducted and was subsequently slammed by medics. There has been no further evidence to suggest the combined MMR is linked with autism or anything else. I'd happily give it to my children in the future.
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