Collagen

[Simpo Two]

I'm having trouble with occasional hip pain, and have been taking Seven Seas JointCare for abut 10 days without any obvious effect. The GP's physiotherapist has suggested I take collagen capsules too.

I bought some Vitabiotics Jointace which says 'Advanced Bone & Cartilage Support' but the pills were massive and would have been uncomfortable to try to swallow

Hence I'm looking at https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B094NRZ56D/?th=1 - but that's called 'marine collagen' and I wondered if that makes a difference. One review says 'Tiny and easy swallow' which is ideal, but others report stomach pain...

Can anyone recommend a collagen supplement which is the right sort for joints (as opposed to skin), is small and doesn't have side effects please?

[horsemeatscandal]

Don't bother with marine collagen, get bovine. I prefer it powdered and made into a tasty drink.

https://www.myprotein.com/p/sports-nutrition/colla...

[Defcon5]

horsemeatscandal said:

Don't bother with marine collagen, get bovine. I prefer it powdered and made into a tasty drink.

https://www.myprotein.com/p/sports-nutrition/colla...

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[horsemeatscandal]

I can also provide recommendations on glue and dartboards.

[Simpo Two]

horsemeatscandal said:

Don't bother with marine collagen, get bovine. I prefer it powdered and made into a tasty drink.

https://www.myprotein.com/p/sports-nutrition/colla...

Thanks, though that seems more for weightlifters than someone with a (hopefully transitory) sore hip...!

The chemists have a tiny pot of capsules for £20+ but I was hoping to find something cheaper online.

[Mobile Chicane]

Is there any scientific evidence that dietary collagen has any effect - other than on your wallet?

[Simpo Two]

Mobile Chicane said:

Is there any scientific evidence that dietary collagen has any effect - other than on your wallet?

No idea, only that an NHS physiotherapist suggested it so they're not trying to get hits on a YT channel.

Collagen is connective tissue so maybe simply eating meat would do it... dunno.

Anyway, I found a Seven Seas product with it in so will give it go.

[hidetheelephants]

A physio isn't going to have training in diet, never mind internal medicine, is going to give useful advice how? You might as well ask someone down the pub about dealing with alcoholism.

[simon_harris]

hidetheelephants said:

A physio isn't going to have training in diet, never mind internal medicine, is going to give useful advice how? You might as well ask someone down the pub about dealing with alcoholism.

I know you often post nonsense but this one is a lot even for you.

[Mr Roper]

I've been taking these consistently for the past few weeks to support joint health, mobility and recovery. For what I do this supplement can provide a small supportive benefit paired with other good habits, but it's no sure thing so will see how I get on....


6 per day - about £25 for 2 months supply.

[Simpo Two]

^^ Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. The Seven Seas version is due today.

[oddman]

All proteins are broken down to their component amino acids in order to be absorbed from the gut.

Are proponents of collagen supplements suggesting a mechanism whereby these amino acids 'remember' that they were once part of a collagen molecule and can side step the usual processes of protein synthesis at the site where they are needed?

[Simpo Two]

That's a very good question. Perhaps it works psychosomatically... I will ask next time!

[The_Doc]

oddman said:

All proteins are broken down to their component amino acids in order to be absorbed from the gut.

Are proponents of collagen supplements suggesting a mechanism whereby these amino acids 'remember' that they were once part of a collagen molecule and can side step the usual processes of protein synthesis at the site where they are needed?

yeah this.

You *are* putting more "ingredients" into the machine. But the thought that the collagen you eat goes to your saggy face is just pure BS.

but we tired of Acai berries, apple cider vinegar, paleo, Atkins pretty fast, so the fad machine rolls on

In fact he's a pithy and succinct list of 100 Nutrition trends of recent years. https://www.futurefit.co.uk/blog/nutrition-trends/

[Simpo Two]

Update...

Well, after going down the NHS route - first fobbed off a phone call from a woman who could barely speak English who sent me a link to a website, then an actual physio, then exercises, then X-ray (no fault found), another physio appt and another month of exercises all to no avail... I suddenly had a brainwave. Osteopath! I could have kicked myself for not thinking of it months ago. Had a google, found one nearby with lots of experience, saw her the next day. 45 minute appt, 5 mins of tousing around and then 'click'! Wow, hip is back in place! Sacroiliac joint. Now I just have to be careful not to twist it, and take ibuprofen for a few days while the muscles get used to their new position. £55 bloody well spent.

Osteopaths, brilliant!

[bigpriest]

oddman said:

All proteins are broken down to their component amino acids in order to be absorbed from the gut.

Are proponents of collagen supplements suggesting a mechanism whereby these amino acids 'remember' that they were once part of a collagen molecule and can side step the usual processes of protein synthesis at the site where they are needed?

It's from the Holland & Barrett School of Medicine Want more knee cartilage? Just take shark cartilage pills. It's cure by word association.