Breathing incident with a curry
Discussion
So after my health question around teeth (which I am still mulling over leaning towards root canal), I have a new one for the hive mind here I m falling apart 
Went with pals to Coventry to watch Ice Hockey (they are Blaze fans), & we went to the Sky Blue Tavern for a curry & beer before the game.
I ordered a chicken thali. The food arrived, looked great. Had some of mine (tikka masala, daal) - lovely!
Then had a small bit of the jalfrezi, & immediately my throat started closing up - very hard to breathe, very fast
Now: I have had this happen once before, about 10-15 years ago, at a Thai place (curiously also on Coventry). That time I had enjoyed a delicious bowl of Thai something, & was slurping the bowl. After going pale, struggling to get air in, workmates looking concerned, things finally eased, & we left.
Today was the same.
MrsMikeIOW and our friends were clearly very concerned - I guess I was too, but did think to just stay calm and suck what air I could in .& eventually I managed to sip some drink and my throat relaxed.
This time we had a chat with the staff about ingredients.
After discussion with the kitchen, they said it was essentially chicken, onion, tomatoes, garam masala, turmeric, salt & chilli.
I ve had numerous curries in my time, & indeed have enjoyed a fair number of jalfrezi s, without any similar issue.
I m guessing this is perhaps some specific chilli, or maybe just a super concentrated bit that hit my throat and made it close up.
Anyone got any other ideas?
I ll think I ll be avoiding chilli dishes in the future
Curry to show how lovely it all looked: jalfrezi bottom centre & Blaze won, so they were happy
Hoping not to be starting too many more in this sub-forum, but who knows…..the docs are also on to me to try statins….
Went with pals to Coventry to watch Ice Hockey (they are Blaze fans), & we went to the Sky Blue Tavern for a curry & beer before the game.
I ordered a chicken thali. The food arrived, looked great. Had some of mine (tikka masala, daal) - lovely!
Then had a small bit of the jalfrezi, & immediately my throat started closing up - very hard to breathe, very fast
Now: I have had this happen once before, about 10-15 years ago, at a Thai place (curiously also on Coventry). That time I had enjoyed a delicious bowl of Thai something, & was slurping the bowl. After going pale, struggling to get air in, workmates looking concerned, things finally eased, & we left.
Today was the same.
MrsMikeIOW and our friends were clearly very concerned - I guess I was too, but did think to just stay calm and suck what air I could in .& eventually I managed to sip some drink and my throat relaxed.
This time we had a chat with the staff about ingredients.
After discussion with the kitchen, they said it was essentially chicken, onion, tomatoes, garam masala, turmeric, salt & chilli.
I ve had numerous curries in my time, & indeed have enjoyed a fair number of jalfrezi s, without any similar issue.
I m guessing this is perhaps some specific chilli, or maybe just a super concentrated bit that hit my throat and made it close up.
Anyone got any other ideas?
I ll think I ll be avoiding chilli dishes in the future
Curry to show how lovely it all looked: jalfrezi bottom centre & Blaze won, so they were happy
Hoping not to be starting too many more in this sub-forum, but who knows…..the docs are also on to me to try statins….
sherman said:
Could be anything.
Without tests you will never know. Get patch testing and see if anything reacts.
Possibly, but if it was an allergy, I m surprised I was able to recover so fast.Without tests you will never know. Get patch testing and see if anything reacts.
It was certainly a properly nasty allergy, at the least.
eta - sounds very much like a laryngospasm - https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/224...
Edited by mikeiow on Monday 10th November 00:18
Laryngospasm secondary to noxious stimulus.
Sometimes the larynx just closes up as a defense mechanism.
Not allergic mediated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngospasm
Oh, I see you edited to add and got there too.
Sometimes the larynx just closes up as a defense mechanism.
Not allergic mediated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngospasm
Oh, I see you edited to add and got there too.
Edited by The_Doc on Monday 10th November 18:42
Can't imagine how scary that was for you and those with you.
Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
Inbox said:
Can't imagine how scary that was for you and those with you.
Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
If its not allergy mediated and it was spasm, there is no treatment or cure. You have to just be on your guard.Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
Patch testing might be useful, but by age 60, most people have been exposed to most allergens and have already worked out if it's peanuts, grass pollen, nickel, bee stings etc.
An epipen isn't suitable for this in the community
The_Doc said:
Inbox said:
Can't imagine how scary that was for you and those with you.
Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
If its not allergy mediated and it was spasm, there is no treatment or cure. You have to just be on your guard.Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
Patch testing might be useful, but by age 60, most people have been exposed to most allergens and have already worked out if it's peanuts, grass pollen, nickel, bee stings etc.
An epipen isn't suitable for this in the community
The_Doc said:
Inbox said:
Can't imagine how scary that was for you and those with you.
Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
If its not allergy mediated and it was spasm, there is no treatment or cure. You have to just be on your guard.Definitely worth an appointment with the GP considering the potential outcome.
It can take a while to work out what is going so the GP might consider some sort of emergency treatment that you can carry with you, you have been lucky so far.
Patch testing might be useful, but by age 60, most people have been exposed to most allergens and have already worked out if it's peanuts, grass pollen, nickel, bee stings etc.
An epipen isn't suitable for this in the community
Yup, I suspect that is it.
Not entirely sure how to guard against it (other than avoiding all spicy foods, which is unlikely to happen
). Wasn't reflux, wasn't drowning....not too sure how to guard against it.
On the question of how scary it was: well, it matched an incident I experienced many years ago, and I think I read that if your throat closes up, you pass out & the throat is likely to relax.....might be rubbish, esp now I read that link.....
...... but aside from looking like I was dying, I was actually fairly relaxed - sucking air in through the tiny space, unable to speak, but kind of serene inside. Maybe that is what dying is like
My wife & two friends, on the other hand...well, they won't forget that meal in a hurry
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