Heathcare for millionaires, Proactive heathcare

[pacenotes]

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off as she found some gene she had that found out that her boobs would kill her.


You can now buy blood test kits in Tesco, but this being Pistonheads, what do the local Porsche driving millionaires do?


I looked up that you can do a blood test for allergies, yearly MOTs, or focus on one part....

Just looking if anyone has had them done? And which ones would you recommend?

At the end of the day the NHS is great when you are sick but not very good at the pro active bit.

Edited by pacenotes on Sunday 11th May 23:10

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pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off as she found some gene she had that found out that her boobs would kill her.


You can now buy blood test kits in Tesco, but this being Pistonheads, what do the local Porsche driving millionaires do?


I looked up that you can do a blood test for allergies, yearly MOTs, or focus on one part....

Just looking if anyone has had them done? And which ones would you recommend?

At the end of the day the NHS is great when you are sick but not very good at the pro active bit.

Edited by pacenotes on Sunday 11th May 23:10

You seem quite risk averse so I would recommend you have your lungs and bowels removed ASAP plus your breast tissue which works for he/her/him/her/they and prostate if you identify as a bloke/man

Good luck

If you wish to be thorough go for brain as well although its possible youre one step ahead of me

Cheers

[Chris Peacock]

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

[DKL]

The problem with doing proactive scans. mri/cat etc is that you have to investigate every little thing you find or there is simply no point. The vast majority you will live with quite happily and would ordinarily not even know about. Yes you just might find something that just might become a problem but you will spend the next year post scans doing more and more tests before the annual review comes around and you start all over again.
You'll be completely paranoid in no time at all.

[DanL]

DKL said:

The problem with doing proactive scans. mri/cat etc is that you have to investigate every little thing you find or there is simply no point. The vast majority you will live with quite happily and would ordinarily not even know about. Yes you just might find something that just might become a problem but you will spend the next year post scans doing more and more tests before the annual review comes around and you start all over again.
You'll be completely paranoid in no time at all.

This - if they do find something unusual, you need to have the money, health insurance, or a lucky NHS area to chase things down.

I had a blood test at the start of the year. As I have private health insurance with work, my GP referred me to a specialist. I pay 10%, up to 250 per year for investigations and treatment, etc. so why not?

I’ve had a colonoscopy (do not recommend ), ultrasound and a fibroscan, plus some additional blood tests. I paid 250 - total cost was probably 5-6k (I forget exactly). I now know I have a healthy, but fatty, liver. I should lose some weight to resolve the liver issue, but I’d be fine regardless.

It’s nice to have a diagnosis, but all this came from a random blood test. If you don’t also have the way to see any anomalous result through to a conclusion, then knowing isn’t necessary helpful and running something down could quickly become expensive.

[ChocolateFrog]

These full body scans linked to AI could probably preemptively diagnose all sorts in the near future.

I'd imagine celebrities would be all over that sort of thing.

[90CHPAXL]

Its through my workplace health care, but Bluecrest wellness provide all sorts of tests, many of them discounted through various avenues.
https://www.bluecrestwellness.com/

I'm with vitality through work and via the platinum status you get a considerable discount. Easy to book too. They offer blood tests that look for various proteins that are signals of cancers and other nasties, so that may be the direction you're after?

[pacenotes]

That looks pretty good. It was what was in the Times at the weekend. There's a group doing PSA tests on men for prostate cancer. They cost £30 each, which is a bargain. The NHS just won't do them if you have symptoms.

For £30 I wouldn't mind doing it every few years.

[hidetheelephants]

NHS/govt are spending quite a lot on researching and expanding pro-active stuff, particularly for conditions caused by genes or where an increased likelihood stems from genes. The private sector have been happily soaking the worried well for as long as medicine has existed.

[Quattr04.]

In America people get a yearly medical where they’re generally checked over, blood tests to check everything etc.

In this country you can get the same thing from bupa or Nuffield health

had a similar thing at work where we had a check up, a mental health chat and massage once a year


You can pay privately to do blood tests online to check most things, but other stuff seems to just be wait and see


No doubt if the NHS did a similar thing, it would save loads of cash because it would find things earlier when they are easier to treat, also meaning people need less time off work sick etc

[Silvanus]

Chris Peacock said:

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

As someone who is watching their wife suffer with terminal breast cancer, that comments is definitely proof of someone who is utterly clueless.

[muscatdxb]

Chris Peacock said:

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

Yeah, thats a bit disrespectful. The BRCA gene gives you a 40% chance of breast cancer and a 25% chance of ovarian. Not an increase, a 40% chance! My wife lives with that over her head every day and it’s not a barrel of laughs.

[muscatdxb]

To answer the question for the benefit of other people, I get a medichecks complete blood test maybe 3 times per year at a cost of around £220 a time. I also get abdominal ultrasounds maybe twice a year for around £150. For less than a grand a year it seems a good investment. I also accepted a borderline colonoscopy to be proactive. Though I freaked out I don’t think it was actually that bad so I’d encourage most people to do one occasionally!

The only thing all of this has shown is a slight fatty liver which I’m trying to reduce now with weight loss.

[Over over under steer]

muscatdxb said:

Chris Peacock said:

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

Yeah, thats a bit disrespectful. The BRCA gene gives you a 40% chance of breast cancer and a 25% chance of ovarian. Not an increase, a 40% chance! My wife lives with that over her head every day and it’s not a barrel of laughs.

Having lost my mother to it, and currently watching my sister suffer under the horrid gene, I hope OP takes a read of these comments and tries to be a better person.

[alock]

Quattr04. said:

No doubt if the NHS did a similar thing, it would save loads of cash because it would find things earlier when they are easier to treat, also meaning people need less time off work sick etc

Everyone has to die of something. The more illnesses they cure, the more illnesses they have to treat.

[LunarOne]

Silvanus said:

Chris Peacock said:

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

As someone who is watching their wife suffer with terminal breast cancer, that comments is definitely proof of someone who is utterly clueless.

I'm very sorry to hear about what you and your wife are going through. Some people can be utterly crass and I hope she doesn't have to listen to too much nonsense like that.

[Silvanus]

LunarOne said:

Silvanus said:

Chris Peacock said:

pacenotes said:

Angelina Jolie cut her tits off

What a lovely way of putting it.

As someone who is watching their wife suffer with terminal breast cancer, that comments is definitely proof of someone who is utterly clueless.

I'm very sorry to hear about what you and your wife are going through. Some people can be utterly crass and I hope she doesn't have to listen to too much nonsense like that.

Thankfully she doesn't, she generally has a tendency to associate with intelligent people

[jayymannon]

Probably the best proactive healthcare is diet.
Might be one for the unpopular opinions thread but my thoughts are that if the UK population ate a better diet and did a moderate amount of exercise the NHS Budget could probably be reduced by a least a quarter.
Diet seems to affect everything, not just physical health but mental health as well.

[Quattr04.]

jayymannon said:

Probably the best proactive healthcare is diet.
Might be one for the unpopular opinions thread but my thoughts are that if the UK population ate a better diet and did a moderate amount of exercise the NHS Budget could probably be reduced by a least a quarter.
Diet seems to affect everything, not just physical health but mental health as well.

very true

I was reading in the economist something like 20% of the UK is obese, not just overweight, obese and it’s increase since the 90s when UPF and seed oils really took off, and other bits I’ve read pointing to the increases In IBD and cancers in the same period

It really all starts with diet, I cut 90% of UPFs out and only eat whole foods and I feel 10 times better, my skin is better, my sleep is better, and when I do eat something ultra processed like a Greggs sausage roll or even a twix they just taste gross to me now.